UnderGround Forum >> Lee Murray just wrote me. However, I am not.....

saddamhugevein -  ^^^ how so sir?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2121016&forum=1&page=1&pc=55

you have your own thread and everything.

NorthFromHere - 

3rdLion - 

NorthFromHere - Murray beat an elderly man into coma over a traffic incident.

source?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/stabbed-cage-brawler-went-on-trial-559459

NorthFromHere - Murray beat an elderly man into coma over a traffic incident.

suess - 

saddamhugevein -  ^^^ how so sir?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2121016&forum=1&page=1&pc=55

 

you have your own thread and everything.

Woah!!!

Thx for the heads up brother....Im going over there to pay my dues!   :)

pickula - 

NorthFromHere - 

3rdLion - 

NorthFromHere - Murray beat an elderly man into coma over a traffic incident.

source?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/stabbed-cage-brawler-went-on-trial-559459

NorthFromHere - Did you actually read that newspaper report? Here's a line from it.... 'Last November a judge cleared Murray of GBH and dangerous driving after the jury failed to reach a verdict and was discharged.' (For non-UK based folks, GBH = grievous bodily harm). The same report also says that the 'victim' was 'middle-aged', not 'elderly'.

None of which justifies your 'he beat an elderly man into a coma' comment. Murray, as far as I'm concerned, is low class scum and is exactly where he belongs - no need to invent crap to make him look bad, there are enough real facts that do that already.

Billytk - 

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

How many people were physically hurt during this ordeal?

How many hospital visits?

 

 

 

Zero?   Man, that Lee Murray sure is a harmful guy.

So you wouldn't mind then if I put a gun to your wife's head, threatened her, took her hostage and had her fearing for her life? As long as there are no physical injuries its no big deal right?

Think before you post instead of trying to play BS devils advocate all the time - mental / emotional damage can be a lot more harmful than anything physical.

I understand that side of the situation. I'm not saying they aren't victims. They are. But the extent of the harm seems like it is being overplayed.

 

I mean, scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them......for 200 bucks. That doesn't seem worth it, and that would be very scummy.

Scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them for say.....90 M-I-L-L-I-O-N D-O-L-L-A-R-S, well, that changes the playing field.

 

I will answer your question honestly and hope you do the same.

No, for one I would NEVER get married, but obviously I wouldn't want anything like that to happen to me, especially if I gain nothing from it.

 

Now my question for you, is if you could get 90 million in cash, be set for life as well as your kids and grandkids, and all you had to do was execute a carefully planned heist that although involves kidnapping, does no physical harm to anyone, would you consider it for 90 million dollars?

The honest answer to your question is no. Does that really surprise you??

Not sure if it's surprising but it does make me believe you are a liar, 90mil come on as if you wouldn't scare a stranger for that much money

ShawnTheBadger - 

Billytk - 

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

How many people were physically hurt during this ordeal?

How many hospital visits?

 

 

 

Zero?   Man, that Lee Murray sure is a harmful guy.

So you wouldn't mind then if I put a gun to your wife's head, threatened her, took her hostage and had her fearing for her life? As long as there are no physical injuries its no big deal right?

Think before you post instead of trying to play BS devils advocate all the time - mental / emotional damage can be a lot more harmful than anything physical.

I understand that side of the situation. I'm not saying they aren't victims. They are. But the extent of the harm seems like it is being overplayed.

 

I mean, scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them......for 200 bucks. That doesn't seem worth it, and that would be very scummy.

Scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them for say.....90 M-I-L-L-I-O-N D-O-L-L-A-R-S, well, that changes the playing field.

 

I will answer your question honestly and hope you do the same.

No, for one I would NEVER get married, but obviously I wouldn't want anything like that to happen to me, especially if I gain nothing from it.

 

Now my question for you, is if you could get 90 million in cash, be set for life as well as your kids and grandkids, and all you had to do was execute a carefully planned heist that although involves kidnapping, does no physical harm to anyone, would you consider it for 90 million dollars?

The honest answer to your question is no. Does that really surprise you??

Not sure if it's surprising but it does make me believe you are a liar, 90mil come on as if you wouldn't scare a stranger for that much money

Another "no" right here.

FWIW I have a rather sordid past and long arrest record. Done a lot of shit that is felony illegal as can be. Made my money that way for more than a few years in a couple different occupations. The statue of limitations is long past.

Full grown adult males that chose to be "in the game" on either side of the law? No problems.

None of my illegal activities ever involved children, (civilian) women, animals, or seniors. Never. Period. Nor would any of my associates at that time cross the line and involve those types of folks. Because they knew I would have had a major and serious problem with that.

Not following the laws and morals of the general population does NOT always mean living amorally. Despite my purposefully ignoring the Law, I always had a code of conduct to which I adhered.

Maybe I watched too many Godfather movies as a kid? But the old-school mafia lived by a strictly enforced code of conduct. I can respect that.

I've got zero respect for a man who's grandiose plan involved kidnapping at gun-point women and children. That is downright amoral and despicable.

Jason Reinhardt - Junkie Dog, Hmmm? you make a valid point here. My Loyalty is first above all with my family! So, if i answered your question with complete honesty...I doubt i would still feel the same about him if he had done this to my family. However, it's not even proven Lee even did the bank heist. Nobody really knows 100% for sure? Do they? I'm asking. Here's the thing...yes, Lee has been known to do some terrible things with a criminal past. Here's what i am hoping. I hope Lee has had time to reflect and change as a man. Change his outlook on how he views life. I will say this....and i am not making excuses for him. When a person is partying and living a rock star type life, it's very easy to have your judgement clouded by this type of partying ways.again, no excuse! just a bit of an explanation.
I witnessed the "good man" in Lee. Like the time in iowa he gave a large sum of money to the homeless man who was a military veteran i believe. Anyway, again...i do not condone or respect any type of criminal acts. I just happened to have an old friend who got in a lot of trouble. I never witness this side of Lee. At all!!

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

How many people were physically hurt during this ordeal?

How many hospital visits?

 

 

 

Zero?   Man, that Lee Murray sure is a harmful guy.

So you wouldn't mind then if I put a gun to your wife's head, threatened her, took her hostage and had her fearing for her life? As long as there are no physical injuries its no big deal right?

Think before you post instead of trying to play BS devils advocate all the time - mental / emotional damage can be a lot more harmful than anything physical.

I understand that side of the situation. I'm not saying they aren't victims. They are. But the extent of the harm seems like it is being overplayed.

 

I mean, scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them......for 200 bucks. That doesn't seem worth it, and that would be very scummy.

Scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them for say.....90 M-I-L-L-I-O-N D-O-L-L-A-R-S, well, that changes the playing field.

 

I will answer your question honestly and hope you do the same.

No, for one I would NEVER get married, but obviously I wouldn't want anything like that to happen to me, especially if I gain nothing from it.

 

Now my question for you, is if you could get 90 million in cash, be set for life as well as your kids and grandkids, and all you had to do was execute a carefully planned heist that although involves kidnapping, does no physical harm to anyone, would you consider it for 90 million dollars?

The honest answer to your question is no. Does that really surprise you??

Man, that has to SUCK to be on that level of pussy where 90 million in cash doesn't even make you consider doing something against morals.

Or maybe you're not a pussy, instead you're just an extremely law obiding citizen that NEVER does ANYTHING wrong or EVER willingly breaks a law. Hats off to you sir. Have fun coming to a complete stop at every stop sign.

You and your strong morals. Get outta here with that shit

pickula -

NorthFromHere - 

3rdLion - 

NorthFromHere - Murray beat an elderly man into coma over a traffic incident.

source?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/stabbed-cage-brawler-went-on-trial-559459

NorthFromHere - Did you actually read that newspaper report? Here's a line from it.... 'Last November a judge cleared Murray of GBH and dangerous driving after the jury failed to reach a verdict and was discharged.' (For non-UK based folks, GBH = grievous bodily harm). The same report also says that the 'victim' was 'middle-aged', not 'elderly'.

None of which justifies your 'he beat an elderly man into a coma' comment. Murray, as far as I'm concerned, is low class scum and is exactly where he belongs - no need to invent crap to make him look bad, there are enough real facts that do that already.

NotImpressedByYourScreenName-

Can you reply to this?

I'm not saying more people should be like him. I'm not condoning what he did. But what he did, takes balls, BIG, HUGE, BRASS BALLS. There's a reason why nobody in the history of the world run out of a bank with 90 million in cash.  The balls one must have to do that, I admire that, and I'm not ashamed to say that at all.

Just like there's a reason there aren't many multi millionaire drug lords. I feel what they do is far worse and more time hurting innocents. I think they are far worse than what Lee Murray is, and even though I wouldn't want any relation to them in my family history, I can still appreciate the grand scale of their crimes, without condoning it. 

I'm sorry that's so hard for you to grasp.

So the upbringing you had to get where you are, that's the same as Lee Murrays? That's kind of the comparison I got.

I don't know how you're saying I would like to be like him, I don't know what I said that makes you say that, enlighten me. I wouldn't, I know I could never muster up the balls to do what he's accused of doing, but I certainly would say, I would enjoy the benifits of 90 million, just don't think I'm capable of. Again, I can admire the stones greater than that of my own when it comes to the deciding factor, but that doesn't mean I'd want them.

Like Huuuuuuge ass titties, like huuuuuuuuge huuge. I can appreciate them, but that doesn't mean I'd want the owner to be my live in g/f.

Thanks for calling me a cunt though, namecalling on the internet though doesn't seem like something the male gender resorts to. 

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - Yea ok, Murray's got balls - that doesn't take away from him being a cunt

Middle Ground-FOUND IT. Peace be with you now friend.

JunkieDog - Jason, I'm curious... do you think your loyalty to Lee would have stood up if he had unwittingly kidnapped, bound and gagged relatives of yours? I mean, if Lee didn't KNOW they were related to you, you couldn't really take it personal, right?

It shouldn't make Murray any more or less of a scum bag no matter who they were.

Perhaps,your Grandmother and Grandfather and your brothers 8 year old son? Hell, maybe you hadn't seen him in years and he didn't recognize it was your own daughter he'd scarred for life... would he still be that swell guy you once trained with and was so cool to you?

Vitor just bingo'd my buddy Bisping - 

Skelboy -

NorthFromHere - Murray beat an elderly man into coma over a traffic incident.

That twat smashed into Lee's car when his missus were in it you fucking poof! She were up the duff at the time too. What's North From Here? Some internet bellend.

Wow, is this how uk'ers talk? That was painful.

ttt 4 the return of Skelboy

welcome back Mate!

NotImpressedByYourScreenName -

D241 -

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

NotImpressedByYourScreenName - 

D241 -

How many people were physically hurt during this ordeal?

How many hospital visits?

 

 

 

Zero?   Man, that Lee Murray sure is a harmful guy.

So you wouldn't mind then if I put a gun to your wife's head, threatened her, took her hostage and had her fearing for her life? As long as there are no physical injuries its no big deal right?

Think before you post instead of trying to play BS devils advocate all the time - mental / emotional damage can be a lot more harmful than anything physical.

I understand that side of the situation. I'm not saying they aren't victims. They are. But the extent of the harm seems like it is being overplayed.

 

I mean, scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them......for 200 bucks. That doesn't seem worth it, and that would be very scummy.

Scare a family, no physical harm, but scare the shit out of them for say.....90 M-I-L-L-I-O-N D-O-L-L-A-R-S, well, that changes the playing field.

 

I will answer your question honestly and hope you do the same.

No, for one I would NEVER get married, but obviously I wouldn't want anything like that to happen to me, especially if I gain nothing from it.

 

Now my question for you, is if you could get 90 million in cash, be set for life as well as your kids and grandkids, and all you had to do was execute a carefully planned heist that although involves kidnapping, does no physical harm to anyone, would you consider it for 90 million dollars?

The honest answer to your question is no. Does that really surprise you??

Man, that has to SUCK to be on that level of pussy where 90 million in cash doesn't even make you consider doing something against morals.

 

Or maybe you're not a pussy, instead you're just an extremely law obiding citizen that NEVER does ANYTHING wrong or EVER willingly breaks a law. Hats off to you sir. Have fun coming to a complete stop at every stop sign.

 

You and your strong morals. Get outta here with that shit

Or maybe I've made enough money legitimately so $90m isn't enough to tempt me. Ever think of that?

I've got the car, bikes and house I WANT, not can afford - want. I've literally got pretty much everything I need - any more just causes stress - insurance, possible theft, maintenance etc.

It's obvious you've never had money if you think that $90m is the answer to all your problems. You'd be miserable within 6 months.

Good to see your morals have a price tag though D241 - you're basically saying you would like to be Lee Murray but not get caught. That makes you a cunt.