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1/27/13 10:47 AM
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Sucks that they moved there not knowing it was gang controlled. Heard a similar story to this where they gunned down a young girl playing on the sidewalk in front of her house. These gangs get their power in prison. Phone Post
1/27/13 11:00 AM
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These types of racial tensions happen all over the country.
1/27/13 11:20 AM
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How dare you thought criminals question the value of diversity!
1/27/13 11:41 AM
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This could get interesting because you can't just take the "blame white people" stance
1/27/13 11:50 AM
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AK-BJJ - This could get interesting because you can't just take the "blame white people" stance

Leftists can find a way.
1/27/13 11:55 AM
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http://www.economist.com/node/9587776

Where black and brown collide

The struggle for political dominance pits natural allies [sic] against each other

Aug 2nd 2007 | DURHAM AND LOS ANGELES


TWO men will soon stand trial in Los Angeles in a murder case that does not involve white cops, a sportsman or a music producer. As a result, the trial is unlikely to receive minute-by-minute coverage on cable TV. Yet it will reveal as much about the edgy state of race relations in Los Angeles as the cases of Rodney King or O.J. Simpson. Perhaps more so, since it involves the two groups between which there is most tension. The accused men, Ernesto Alcarez and Jonathan Fajardo, are Hispanic. The victim, 14-year-old Cheryl Green—who, prosecutors say, died in a racially motivated attack—was black.

In the rarefied world of national politics (and in America's even more other-worldly universities) blacks and Latinos tend to be lumped together in what Nicolás Vaca, a California lawyer, calls a “presumed alliance”. Last month Barack Obama, a Democratic presidential candidate whose father was Kenyan, assured a Hispanic conference that such a bond existed. Quoting Martin Luther King, he called the two groups “brothers in the fight for equality”. On the streets of America's cities, however, rather less lofty attitudes are apparent.

“We're being overrun,” says Ted Hayes of Choose Black America, which has led anti-immigration marches in south-central Los Angeles. “The compañeros have taken all the housing. If you don't speak Spanish they turn you down for jobs. Our children are jumped upon in the schools. They are trying to drive us out.” Not, Mr Hayes emphasises, that he has anything against illegal immigrants personally, or against Mexicans who are in America legally. Indeed, he says, in that useful old phrase, he is friendly with many of them.

Last year Pew, a pollster, found that one-third of blacks believe immigrants take jobs from Americans—more than any other group. Yet in some ways their views were benign. Blacks are less likely than whites or even Hispanics to believe that immigrants end up on welfare or commit crimes. Latinos, on the other hand, appear to make no such concessions. One survey of Durham, in North Carolina, found that 59% of Latinos believed few or almost no blacks were hard-working, and a similar proportion reckoned few or almost none could be trusted. Fewer than one in ten whites felt the same way.

Fifteen years ago such prejudices hardly existed in Durham, for the simple reason that there were hardly any Latinos. Like much of the South, the city was biracial, with roughly equal numbers of blacks and whites. Then came a building boom that drew workers from Mexico, many of them illegal. By 2000 one in 12 residents of Durham was Latino—up from one in 80 a decade earlier. By 2005, one in eight was. Mauricio Castro, a local activist, says the change has hit the city like a storm.

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That storm has broken most heavily on the poorest parts of Durham, which happen to be black. It is in largely black neighbourhoods that wooden shacks have been converted into call centres and carnicerias (and it is, inevitably, often blacks who have robbed new arrivals of their weekly wages). In this, Durham is typical. By 2000 blacks in all ten of America's biggest metropolitan areas were more mixed in with Hispanics than with whites. In Los Angeles, former ghettos such as Watts are now biracial.


In poor areas, closeness often means conflict. Los Angeles tallied more than 400 racial hate crimes last year—the most, as a proportion of all hate crimes, for at least a decade (see chart). Blacks fared worst: they comprise just 9% of the population of Los Angeles County but were the victims of 59% of all race-hate crimes. Seven times out of ten, their persecutors were Latino. Hispanics, who make up almost half the population, were victimised by blacks eight-tenths of the time. These numbers greatly understate the violence. They do not, for example, include the victims of a dozen interracial prison riots last year, which left two dead.

Gangs tend to be held responsible for such outrages, which is only partly fair. The 204th Street gang, which is alleged to be behind the murder of Cheryl Green, has a reputation for attacking innocent blacks. And gang members who have done time in California's racially divided jails often develop especially sharp attitudes. Yet gangs often express broadly held views, though in a violent way. Besides, says Robin Toma, the head of the county's human relations commission, gangs can affect the views of law-abiding folk. When bullets start flying, a turf war can easily turn into a broader racial conflict.


The powerless majority
One reason blacks and Latinos have failed to form an alliance is philosophical. The black civil-rights struggle, in the South at least, was mostly about asserting legal rights and demolishing barriers to voting by those who were, in theory, already enfranchised. The Latino struggle is quite different. Its goal is often the selective or non-enforcement of the law, particularly on immigration. A common demand, for example, is for local police not to co-operate with federal immigration agents. And, whereas blacks in the 1960s demanded power in proportion to their numbers as adult citizens, Hispanics want rather more.

Thanks partly to their youth and partly to the fact that many are not citizens, Latinos are not nearly as powerful as their numbers might suggest. In Durham, where they are more than 13% of the population, the Latino vote is negligible. Even in historically Hispanic California they comprise more than a third of the population but cast only about a fifth of the votes. The imbalance between numbers and power irks many Latinos. And since they increasingly live in areas where political power is held by blacks, it often sharpens racial resentments.

In Compton, an independent city in south Los Angeles, Latinos are now 58% of the population—and rising quickly. Yet the mayor and all the members of the council are black. “They got here first, took over from the whites, and now it's difficult for them to let go,” says Alex Leon, a local pastor. Sensing the future tsunami of Latino political power, Compton's mayor has begun to cultivate Hispanics. It may be too late. In the next-door city of Lynwood, Hispanics were largely kept out of power until they became a majority. After seizing control of the city council in 1997 they demolished the black political machine.

Such ethnic squabbles, which are almost inevitable in the zero-sum game of urban politics, can shape attitudes. And they may help to explain one of the most striking features of the 2008 presidential race: the lack of Latino support for Mr Obama. In June a Gallup poll showed that black Democrats were evenly divided between Mr Obama and Hillary Clinton, while whites gave Mrs Clinton a 16-point lead. Among Hispanics, however, the senator from New York led by a crushing 46 points—despite Mr Obama's impeccably liberal line on immigration.

So far, rivalry between blacks and Hispanics has been a mostly working-class affair. But Earl Ofari Hutchinson, who is writing a book on black-Latino relations, reckons that is likely to change. Latinos are already so entrenched in some manual trades that it is hard to see how they can become more dominant. In construction, for example, they account for a quarter of the national workforce and outnumber blacks almost five to one. The next citadels to be stormed will be white-collar, largely female preserves such as public administration, education and health.

In Los Angeles the struggle for such jobs is well under way. Every month the Los Angeles County Chicano Employees Association produces a newsletter illustrating the shortage of Latinos in the top ranks of yet another government office. These reports nearly always show that blacks are over-represented. In the department of children and family services, for example, some 36% of managers are black, 29% are white and just 20% are Hispanic. Yet the reports also show that, over time, Hispanics have steadily taken high-level jobs from both blacks and whites.

If blacks and Hispanics are not brothers in the fight for equality, nor are they locked in a titanic struggle like the one between blacks and whites in the mid-20th-century South. Thankfully, there is far less violence. And the fact that leaders on both sides talk of a common cause probably helps. Yet one thing is the same: the group on top wants to stay there. Indeed, power hard-won from whites may be even more difficult to give up. As parts of Durham begin to resemble south-central Los Angeles, tensions between blacks and Latinos can only increase.
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Its not s war...La Eme is running the blacks out of L.A Phone Post
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Tensions Mounting Between Blacks and Latinos Nationwide

Evidence of a divide between blacks and Hispanics mounting

By Susy Buchanan

One after another, the reports have rolled in. From Florida to California, Nevada to New Jersey, even as far away as the state of Washington, the news is getting harder to ignore: There's trouble brewing between blacks and browns.

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The Presumed Alliance

Traditionally, black and brown activists have seen themselves in a natural alliance in a country historically dominated by whites — an alliance of mostly poorer, darker-skinned minorities whose struggles are not dissimilar. But like the civil-rights-era alliance between blacks and Jews, the black/brown coalition has grown more and more strained. Many blacks resent what is seen as Hispanics leapfrogging them up the socioeconomic ladder, and some complain of the skin-color prejudices that are particularly strong in some Hispanic countries, notably Mexico. Just this May, the Rev. Al Sharpton bitterly demanded that Vicente Fox apologize after the Mexican president made what some blacks interpreted as a racist comment. Similarly, many Hispanics say they are treated in racist ways by blacks, some of whom have apparently singled out undocumented immigrants for robbery and worse.

The conflict is growing, as mainly Hispanic immigrants, legal and illegal, pour into neighborhoods that were in many cases previously dominated by blacks.

Many blacks say Hispanics generally will not hire blacks in their businesses, even though many cater to black customers. Many Hispanics say they are being targeted for robbery by blacks who pick on undocumented workers, a group far less likely to report crimes to police...


Full article: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/summer/the-rift
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1/27/13 12:01 PM
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^^ Intelligence Report, Summer 2005, Issue Number: 118
1/27/13 12:04 PM
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They used to have beat the mexican day back in the day.
1/27/13 12:07 PM
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May 21, 2008, 5:17 AM

The Black-Brown Divide

For every race in America, there’s another racial barrier. Ernesto Quiñonez examines the often contentious divide between Latinos and African-Americans.

By Ernesto Quionez


You won’t find too many portraits of Bill Clinton hanging in Cuban American households -- adiós, Elián! -- but in Puerto Rican homes, he’s as familiar a face as any Catholic saint. RFK is the martyr of choice on Mexican Americans’ walls, while the late white-skinned president Joaquín Balaguer presides over Dominican barbershops across Manhattan’s Washington Heights. The Latino-American community is diverse and divided, some forty-four million people and twenty different nationalities struggling in their own way with immigration, assimilation, and political destiny. Yet for all the differences, there’s one thing (language aside) that many Latinos have in common: You won’t find too many pictures of dark-skinned leaders in their homes.


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The 2000 census made that pretty clear. Forty-eight percent of Hispanics checked themselves off as white, while only 2 percent identified themselves as black. We can blame the form -- not enough boxes, not enough choices -- but the bottom line is that almost half of us can’t shake the idea that we’d be better off if we were white. Is it any wonder that some Obama staffers can’t sleep at night?

Blame it on our homeland. When Latin Americans quit the old countries and put down roots on U.S. soil, they brought a centuries-old, unreconstructed suspicion of dark skin with them. And it still goes on. Just recently I traveled back to my hometown, and I saw two homeless-looking African-Americans who had wandered in front of a cab and would not budge. The Dominican cabdriver, who wasn’t much lighter than they were, started cursing, calling them maldito trepa palos, which roughly translates to “damn tree climbers.” It was more vile in Spanish, trust me. But it was one that I had never heard before.

http://www.esquire.com/features/black-brown-0608
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Survey Points to Tensions Among Chief Minorities

By JULIA PRESTON
Published: December 13, 2007

Distrust and racial tension among Hispanics, Asians and blacks in the United States are pressing concerns for all three groups, a new national poll conducted in English, Spanish and five Asian languages has found.


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The sample of respondents reflected the demographic makeup of the three groups in the United States population, Mr. Bendixen said. About half of Hispanics and about four-fifths of Asians in this country are immigrants, while 90 percent of blacks were born here. The survey did not ask about the legal status of the immigrants.

It reported that 93 percent of Hispanics, 92 percent of African-Americans and 73 percent of Asians said racial tension was a very important problem in the United States.

But the groups’ perceptions of one another are not all negative. While 51 percent of African-Americans in the poll said Hispanic immigrants were taking jobs and political power from blacks, another large group of African-Americans — 45 percent — disagreed that they were losing ground to Hispanics. And while 44 percent of Hispanics said they feared African-Americans, identifying them with high crime rates, half of Hispanics had no such fear.

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The three groups tend to socialize among themselves, mixing infrequently with the others. Nearly three-quarters of Hispanics and Asians and 61 percent of blacks said they had never dated someone who was from either of the two other groups or who was white.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/us/13race.html?_r=0
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I work in Compton, South Los Angeles, Lynwood,etc These are neighborhoods that were traditionally black. I look at it is a good thing that they ate changing over. I do not like working in the black neighborhoods. They're far more dangerous for me. The Hispanics cultivate a community. I noticed that the black communities i work in don't have that same cohesion.

It even breaks down across gang lines. All Mexican gangs will click up into Mexican Mafia. Black gangs do not click up in the same way. They are loosely associated to bloods Crips and vice Lords. However they don't have a hierarchy. They even lack community in their gangs Phone Post
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GunnarWreckedMyAssHAOLE - Its not s war...La Eme is running the blacks out of L.A Phone Post
True Mexicans will take over LA. Phone Post
1/27/13 12:31 PM
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Looks like some people didn't get the memo about diversity uber alles.
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SwamiMaximus - Looks like some people didn't get the memo about diversity uber alles.
They just need education on how awesome diversity is Phone Post
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Why would Mexicans hire blacks to sell carne asada and other Mexican goods when they can't speak Spanish? Mexicans talk both. Black people fucked up by not having a language universal to blacks. In California Mexican business is thriving the rebuilt most of California. Blacks don't really own much besides a few barber shops while Mexicans are building communities all over. Mexicans also support each others businesses more. Phone Post
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I love how the way it's slanted is that everyone should unite against whites. What about Asians Phone Post
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<---- white guy who can afford to be no where from this mess.











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1/27/13 2:28 PM
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At some point the productive citizens of this nation will establish a new "state within a state." At that point, it won't matter what DC or any "diversity" lawyer says. The violent diversity groups and their liberal enablers will simply not be welcome, and the productive class will secede from the crumbling multicultural toilet that liberalism has created in the most "diverse" parts of the country. There will no longer be tax monies being funneled from the productive class to the political and dependent classes.

At that point, funding will be a problem, and I think that the dems/commies will turn to the cartels of south and central america for it. In return, they will support unrestricted immigration, la reconquista, and they will sell out their now-dissident black constituents to a horrible fate at the hands of La Raza. That is my prediction.

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