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1/27/13 1:06 PM
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hogh20 - Nobody, yet. Does that mean he can't? I think with my quoted post, it shows that he is more than capable. I don't know what you are trying to say. Are you saying that because Weidman has no submissions against other high level MMA guys, that means he CAN'T? Gabriel Gonzaga also, has no submissions over high level guys. Are you saying that he as well is not capable?
I'm no expert, but isn't it an entirely different game when your opponent can pinch you in the face? Phone Post
1/27/13 1:07 PM
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1/27/13 1:07 PM
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hogh20 - Nobody, yet. Does that mean he can't? I think with my quoted post, it shows that he is more than capable. I don't know what you are trying to say. Are you saying that because Weidman has no submissions against other high level MMA guys, that means he CAN'T? Gabriel Gonzaga also, has no submissions over high level guys. Are you saying that he as well is not capable?
Therefore why are people thinking he is going to submit Anderson when he hasn't submitted a high level black belt? Phone Post

Because he can! How dense are you?
If what Anderson lets him? No proof of him subbing a high level black belt that's why it's strange to hear his fans saying he is going to submit Anderson? Phone Post
1/27/13 1:07 PM
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Dirk Bevlin -
hogh20 - Nobody, yet. Does that mean he can't? I think with my quoted post, it shows that he is more than capable. I don't know what you are trying to say. Are you saying that because Weidman has no submissions against other high level MMA guys, that means he CAN'T? Gabriel Gonzaga also, has no submissions over high level guys. Are you saying that he as well is not capable?
I'm no expert, but isn't it an entirely different game when your opponent can pinch you in the face? Phone Post
Don't talk logic with this guy he is clueless Phone Post
1/27/13 1:18 PM
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Dirk Bevlin -
hogh20 - Nobody, yet. Does that mean he can't? I think with my quoted post, it shows that he is more than capable. I don't know what you are trying to say. Are you saying that because Weidman has no submissions against other high level MMA guys, that means he CAN'T? Gabriel Gonzaga also, has no submissions over high level guys. Are you saying that he as well is not capable?
I'm no expert, but isn't it an entirely different game when your opponent can pinch you in the face? Phone Post
Don't talk logic with this guy he is clueless Phone Post

It is clueless to think that somebody with the grappling credentials of Weidman can't submit somebody else.
1/27/13 1:21 PM
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Once again.. It's all about money!
Dana has stated on numerous occasions that the Silva camp has said that they don't want certain fights and preferred other fights.
Dana has stated on numerous occasions that the Silva camp has NEVER not signed a contract and will fight anyone when it comes down to it.

Not liking a matchup or preferring another matchup doesn't mean anything when you end up taking the fight. It just means that you're going to make Dana work and offer up more of that Anderson Silva money to get you to do it.

1/27/13 1:21 PM
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Cung Le vs Anderson would be awesome.  Hope they make that fight.


I bet you would, your site probably ranks Cung as the 4th or 5th best MW in the world. Le vs Silva would be a waste of time and money for many, many people. DFW please don't make this fight, please. Silva only has so many fights left and I don't want to have those fights wasted on guys who can't compete. Le has as much of a chance vs. Silva as Bonnar did.
1/27/13 1:22 PM
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After Anderson destroys Weidman in highlight reel fashion, once again, there will be a period of acknowledgement that he is the GOAT.

Then, after the next UFC event, someone will begin trolling about how Anderson is ducking ________. It may be Lombard. It may be Jacare. It may be Evans. It may be Kimo. It's inevitable and expected, because for whatever reasons there will always be people inclined to push bullshit on others.

In the end, it really doesn't matter, because the cycle of Anderson destroying whoever is placed in front of him remains the same. This is prizefighting. Anderson and his management want big money fights. Anderson, in the twilight of an all-time great career, is posturing for the biggest paydays possible. This should not surprise anyone.

Of course it's little sad how some have so much time on their hands that they waste it constantly trolling and spamming this place. But that's neither Anderson's problem nor UFC's. Phone Post
1/27/13 1:33 PM
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Brian Rule -  After Anderson destroys Weidman in highlight reel fashion, once again, there will be a period of acknowledgement that he is the GOAT.

Then, after the next UFC event, someone will begin trolling about how Anderson is ducking ________. It may be Lombard. It may be Jacare. It may be Evans. It may be Kimo. It's inevitable and expected, because for whatever reasons there will always be people inclined to push bullshit on others.

In the end, it really doesn't matter, because the cycle of Anderson destroying whoever is placed in front of him remains the same. This is prizefighting. Anderson and his management want big money fights. Anderson, in the twilight of an all-time great career, is posturing for the biggest paydays possible. This should not surprise anyone.

Of course it's little sad how some have so much time on their hands that they waste it constantly trolling and spamming this place. But that's neither Anderson's problem nor UFC's. Phone Post

     

1/27/13 1:39 PM
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Everybody do the Weidman duck! Phone Post
1/27/13 1:40 PM
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anderson is GOAT.  but hes also ducking. and even if he does beat weidman doesnt mean he wint duck again

 

the point is that he doesnt want to fight weidman because weidman is a bad matchup. but he doesnt acknowledge this. he belittles weidman and lies to the fans by saying its due to his name or him not being worthy but then says he wants to fight rockhole or cung. 

1/27/13 1:46 PM
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Nothing wrong with Anderson wanting big money/big name fights at this point. He is clearly the dominant champion of his division. Let him fight whoever he wants, but have him vacate the title if he wants to make spectacle fights.
1/27/13 1:48 PM
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hogh20 - Nothing wrong with Anderson wanting big money/big name fights at this point. He is clearly the dominant champion of his division. Let him fight whoever he wants, but have him vacate the title if he wants to make spectacle fights.

well nothing wrong with wanting it per se, but then when you say you would rather fight rockhold who actually not as a big of a name as weidman according to virtually every objective, comparable metric, it shows a level of deceit that perceptive people can pick up on

 

also, there is something that can be said about a champion manning up and facing the #1 contender, especially when the champ hasnt defended the belt in a long time...

1/27/13 2:27 PM
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#1 contender or vacate the belt. This is bullshit. Phone Post
1/27/13 2:36 PM
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What Dirk said, stop trying to hand pick your opponents Andy. Phone Post
1/27/13 2:42 PM
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Anderson has earned the right to decide who he wants to fight IMO. Chris Weidman seems like a good guy and a formidable foe but I'm starting to get sick of hearing about him. This idea that he has "paid his dues" and "deserves" a shot is premature. Beating Munoz makes him the undeniable next contender? I don't get it and I'm starting to hope he gets his head kicked off by Anderson when the fight happens.
1/27/13 2:59 PM
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this is why anderson can never be goat.  goat takes on anyone anytime anywhere, as long as they're the best available. 

andy takes on only certain guys, that aren't world beaters, preferably in his home country, and LHWs? only if they're gatekeepers or lower. 

lol at the Rashad negative:  "(-) Started in the UFC at Heavyweight. If he beats Lil Nog, can he make 185?"  not only can Rashad make 185, that is the class for his size.  he's always been a small LHW and it's been bugging the shit out of me how he won't drop down to his perfect size, in a much weaker division where he'd do better.  Rashad is the opposite of Andy.  He goes out of his way for the most challenging matchups available, in a tougher division.  Andy also ignores the proper division for his size, but it's because he prefers the safer neighborhood of MW, NOT because he's a warrior looking for the best challenge available. 

when has a champion basically REFUSED to fight a legit contender? never.  ONLY Anderson "afraid of a challenge" SILVA.  and those of you acting like this is a bargaining chip.  this isn't the NFL.  Dana is Andy's biggest cheerleader.  he wouldn't do that if he were planning on tough negotiations because then they can say "you said it yourself, he's the best, now pay up."  Dana happily pays up to the best on his roster so that strategy isn't even relevant or necessary

Thank god Dana finally says he pulls this shit all the time trying to fight the weakest fighters he can get away with.  When your biggest supporter is the UFC prez and he finally comes out and calls bullshit on your cowardice posturing, that's huge, you know you fucked up.  Now do your fucking job and defend your fucking belt, PERIOD.  "Goat," lol.  You hopeless Andy nut huggers are soon going to see why he's long been afraid to fight the best.  A losing streak is coming because he can no longer hide with this bullshit

 

 

1/27/13 3:18 PM
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atlantis_ninjah - wow, unbelievable, they know Weidman will win, Anderson Has NEVER faced a wrestler WITH BJJ, Weidman will Sub him, Cung le? Luke Rockhold? are you fucking kidding me?, if I was Dana I would make him fight Weidman or force him to retire, no superfights, that shit isnt happening, Weidman has waited long enough.
Lutter had him on the ground for a majority of that fight, he is a brilliant submission grappler. Log off go watch some more MMA then come back.


Oh and Anderson made Lutter TAP. Phone Post

Lutter also came into that fight unprepared, remember he failed to make weight and had to try again, he was drained and had nowhere near the wrestling ability of weidman, but he was the michael jordan of bjj right?
1/27/13 3:20 PM
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Anderson Ducking Weidman -

it will be interesting to see how anderson fanboi's spin this one..im beginning to feel sorry for them...

Don't need to spin shit he destroyed Hendo why would his fans be scared of Weidman? Phone Post

LOL Dan Hendersons wrestling hasnt been effictive in a loong time and had nowhere near the submission ability, your kidding right?
1/27/13 3:43 PM
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R00STER - Anderson has earned the right to decide who he wants to fight IMO. Chris Weidman seems like a good guy and a formidable foe but I'm starting to get sick of hearing about him. This idea that he has "paid his dues" and "deserves" a shot is premature. Beating Munoz makes him the undeniable next contender? I don't get it and I'm starting to hope he gets his head kicked off by Anderson when the fight happens.

You can't be serious about this. If that were the case then there would be no point of having belts in each weight class. If you want to be considered the best, especially the GOAT, you take on all comers; especially if there is a number one contender in your weight class.

 

Weidman's last three wins were over Munoz, Maia, and Lawlor, and since Bisping just lost that makes Weidman the only true number one contender. You really believe before Bisping lost that he deserved a shot more than Weidman?!

Its just strange how ppl used to rag on Fedor for not fighting the best when it was Vadummy making the calls and he wasn't ever in the UFC to begin with. Anderson IS in the UFC and he CAN fight the best in the world; instead he's trying to make the calls, but apparently its ok for him to do it.

I'm and Anderson fan (ppl who don't admire him are liars or haters) but hardcore fans of his have ZERO logic.

Weidman is number one contender and he deserves the shot; enough of this 'give the title shot to the guy who will bring the most PPV buys' - all that does is make the belt itself illegitimate.

1/27/13 3:54 PM
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A champion who refuses to face the best in his division is not a true champion. Never. Not ever. Phone Post
1/27/13 4:17 PM
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Mighty Mouse would wreck Silva. He don't want none of that.
1/27/13 4:18 PM
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Anderson Silva is overwhelmingly the best fighter in MMA. Yes, I would take Silvas striking and jitz over Jones, but his management is a complete fucking joke. Pressing for a fight with a fighter in a lower weight class while coming off an 18 month layoff, and now pushing for Cung Le. Ed Soares is turning into a scum bag manager choosing his fights for easy pay days. Shut the fuck up, fight the top ranked middleweight or jump to 205. Phone Post
1/27/13 5:49 PM
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So who should Anderson fight? It seems like some people are saying he can beat everyone in the World no question and he should be able to choose his opponents because he's going to win no matter who he faces anyway.

Fucking quit crying because people want to see him challenged.
1/27/13 5:51 PM
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R00STER - Anderson has earned the right to decide who he wants to fight IMO. Chris Weidman seems like a good guy and a formidable foe but I'm starting to get sick of hearing about him. This idea that he has "paid his dues" and "deserves" a shot is premature. Beating Munoz makes him the undeniable next contender? I don't get it and I'm starting to hope he gets his head kicked off by Anderson when the fight happens.

no champion should ever earn the right to decide who they fight.....just thinking that is bad for a sport. if a champion can pick and choose who they fight than were gonna start seeing a lot of champions having long winning streaks. if he vacates the title to someone who actually wants to fight the best people at MW than i have no problem with silva picking who he fights. He is a legend and does deserve to have high paying last few fights, but there should not b a double standard just because its silva all champions should b facing number one competitors and unfortunately silva is the only champion you consistently hear about not wanting to fight dangerous opponents and naming ppl like fukin cung le who is 5 years late to this fight because as someone said le has not aged as well as silva

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