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1/22/13 4:59 PM

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UGSlapshot

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J_Swift - Are people supposed to be surprised GSP's game plan will be based on take downs, safe/calculated ground and pound and keeping distance on the feet?
You would be surprised how many ppl feel GSP could beat Nick standing without going to the ground, I'm not one of them.

Can a blue repost the video for me please.
Gsp beats nick in ever Mariam art bjj included!

The same GSP who couldn't sub Dan Hardy, that GSP?

Don't get me wrong he beat him soundly but do you honestly think Dan Hardy could Stonewall Nick like that.. come on dude.

Furthermore Condit beat Diaz and GSP beat Condit if you are a mma math type think about this, Condit almost finished GSP and exchange with him freely, he wanted nothing to do with exchanging punches with Nick and never came close to finishing him.

That of course doesn't mean Nick is going to beat GSP but it does lend some amount of creedence to the opinion that GSP wont fair well if he stands with Nick.

I think GSP should be favored but you have got to keep some perspective. Phone Post

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UGSlapshot Edited: 01/22/13 5:25 PM Member Since: 10/21/12 Posts: 584	Yeah I didn't know he had a health issue before but I could tell from that interview. Its unfortunate he has Parkinson's. You have ignored this user.

1/22/13 5:28 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
AbbottMary 27 Member Since: 11/3/12 Posts: 162	i believe gsp will beat nick standing and on the ground. You have ignored this user.

1/22/13 5:29 PM

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Joe_Drogan420

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

did Freddie say Nick would outbox GSP or just that GSP wouldn't stand with him? i didn't watch the vid so this is actually a serious question.

When asked if GSP would be comfortable enough with his boxing to be confident to stand with Diaz, Roach replied with a quick, "No. You know the thing is we need to refine more"

1/22/13 5:46 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
suess 92 Member Since: 11/1/10 Posts: 15144	Lol and that is freddie saying diaz is better? Reach You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 1:14 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
UGSlapshot Member Since: 10/21/12 Posts: 599	Another thing about Nick people keep losing perspective about is the idea Nick Diaz has poor tdd. Now I'm not saying Nick will stuff every td GSP goes for but I think Nick will successfully stuff some of GSP's tds especially later in the fight. I still feel GSP should be favored by Lay & Pray but Nick could take this fight and nobody should be shocked if he does. You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 1:19 AM

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UGSlapshot - Another thing about Nick people keep losing perspective about is the idea Nick Diaz has poor tdd.

Now I'm not saying Nick will stuff every td GSP goes for but I think Nick will successfully stuff some of GSP's tds especially later in the fight.

I still feel GSP should be favored by Lay & Pray but Nick could take this fight and nobody should be shocked if he does.

GSP is going to take down Nick. Nick is going to submit GSP.

1/28/13 1:39 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
I AM A MOFO Member Since: 3/6/10 Posts: 6383	GSP's boxing coach publically states that GSP won't stand before the fight? Why say that and tell the other guy what to expect? Misdirection, imo. Sounds to me like they're hoping to surprise Diaz in/with the stand up. You have ignored this user.

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I AM A MOFO Member Since: 3/6/10 Posts: 6384	Though I should point out I can't watch the interview and am unaware of context, lol. You have ignored this user.

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Geoff G Electric Member Since: 1/13/11 Posts: 291	Diaz don't give a fuck !! He's coming in with the same ol game plan !! Win or lose he don't care .. He's just trying to get PAID ! You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 2:10 AM

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So Roach basically said GSP is not good enough to stand with Nick, amiright?

I think he said GSP is better at putting the mixed in mixed martial arts amirite?
You are right

I'm guessing that Roach wanted everyone including Nick that GSP is not good enough to box Diaz. GSP will have Diaz figure out even more so on fight night and have shot down everything that Diaz try. Phone Post

1/28/13 2:24 AM

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

I realize it might be a revelation to you, but sometimes. juuuuuuust sometimes, a trainer might not tell you the truth, or all of it, just before a fight with his fighter.

i mean, it's not rocket science. He might very well say something exactly the opposite of the truth, hoping the other fighter will buy into it, and attack something he's sadly mistaken about

1/28/13 2:33 AM

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Joe_Drogan420

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

I realize it might be a revelation to you, but sometimes. juuuuuuust sometimes, a trainer might not tell you the truth, or all of it, just before a fight with his fighter.

i mean, it's not rocket science. He might very well say something exactly the opposite of the truth, hoping the other fighter will buy into it, and attack something he's sadly mistaken about

Yeah, you're probably right.
I mean when I think about it, Freddie Roach, a boxing trainer who trains boxers everyday and talks and analyzes boxer's skills everyday. Talks about how fights are going to go down analytically in the stand-up department. Who suffers from Parkinson's and hasn't extensively worked with or coached GSP is going to try to get into Diaz's mind by saying that GSP isn't good enough to stand with Diaz?

Sure, he could've said that GSP has really worked on his exchanging hooks in the pocket, or has extensively worked on adding uppercuts to his arsenal. You know, to deflect Nick. Or he could have used his analytical skills to break down where Diaz has the advantage, albeitly giving away GSP's advantage. But instead he chose to say that GSP needs to work on his boxing more before engages Diaz in the stand up.

Great work by GSP's camp to get this misinformation campaign going.
And when you consider how often Diaz frequents the internet it really starts to make a lot of sense.

Good work guys.

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Klownoh Member Since: 11/8/10 Posts: 149	I got the vibe that Freddie was implying he is not ready now, so he will work with him to get ready for Diaz style. You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 2:55 AM

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

I realize it might be a revelation to you, but sometimes. juuuuuuust sometimes, a trainer might not tell you the truth, or all of it, just before a fight with his fighter.

i mean, it's not rocket science. He might very well say something exactly the opposite of the truth, hoping the other fighter will buy into it, and attack something he's sadly mistaken about

Yeah, you're probably right.
I mean when I think about it, Freddie Roach, a boxing trainer who trains boxers everyday and talks and analyzes boxer's skills everyday. Talks about how fights are going to go down analytically in the stand-up department. Who suffers from Parkinson's and hasn't extensively worked with or coached GSP is going to try to get into Diaz's mind by saying that GSP isn't good enough to stand with Diaz?

Sure, he could've said that GSP has really worked on his exchanging hooks in the pocket, or has extensively worked on adding uppercuts to his arsenal. You know, to deflect Nick. Or he could have used his analytical skills to break down where Diaz has the advantage, albeitly giving away GSP's advantage. But instead he chose to say that GSP needs to work on his boxing more before engages Diaz in the stand up.

Great work by GSP's camp to get this misinformation campaign going.
And when you consider how often Diaz frequents the internet it really starts to make a lot of sense.

Good work guys.

No I'm sure you're right, the boxing coach is going to say he's not going to stand and box with him.

Brilliant.

I think a lot of other trainers should honestly say what a fighter's gameplan will be. Even after CLEARLY saying he wouldn't.

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Joe_Drogan420 Member Since: 12/31/11 Posts: 2126	Did you even watch the interview and hear the quote in context? You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 8:22 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Entreri Member Since: 12/25/05 Posts: 25093	MMARAIDER - Leghound - Sal Penis - So Roach basically said GSP is not good enough to stand with Nick, amiright? I think he said GSP is better at putting the mixed in mixed martial arts amirite? You are right You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 8:32 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
sitchpack 1 Member Since: 9/14/12 Posts: 949	Nick Diaz by go go You have ignored this user.

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fapout 523 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 17520	Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago. Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach. this isn't boxing, its mma and yeah, GSP would beat the shit outta Diaz You have ignored this user.

1/28/13 10:39 AM

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UGSlapshot

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I AM A MOFO - GSP's boxing coach publically states that GSP won't stand before the fight? Why say that and tell the other guy what to expect? Misdirection, imo.

Sounds to me like they're hoping to surprise Diaz in/with the stand up.

You can't give up GSP's gameplan because its always the same with every fighter and everyone and their mother know gsp's game plan.

Its called pointfightwrasslfuckftw

Its obvious Roach is answering the questions honestly, talk about conspiracy theories... Phone Post

1/28/13 10:44 AM

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UGSlapshot

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

this isn't boxing, its mma

and yeah, GSP would beat the shit outta Diaz

No he wouldn't and they didn't ask if GSP would attempt to box Nick in a boxing match they asked if the planned to strike with nick in a mma fight and the answer was no, they needed to refine more... Phone Post

1/28/13 10:51 AM

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

this isn't boxing, its mma

and yeah, GSP would beat the shit outta Diaz
No he wouldn't and they didn't ask if GSP would attempt to box Nick in a boxing match they asked if the planned to strike with nick in a mma fight and the answer was no, they needed to refine more...

do you really think that GSP's camp is gonna make they're gameplan public?

1/28/13 10:58 AM

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

this isn't boxing, its mma

and yeah, GSP would beat the shit outta Diaz
No he wouldn't and they didn't ask if GSP would attempt to box Nick in a boxing match they asked if the planned to strike with nick in a mma fight and the answer was no, they needed to refine more...

do you really think that GSP's camp is gonna make they're gameplan public?

Did the public not know his gameplan?

Because exotic aliens on a undiscovered planet we didn't know existed, already know gsp's gameplan.... Phone Post

1/28/13 11:00 AM

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Joe_Drogan420 - lol @ all the UG'ers saying GSP would outbox Nick Diaz in that thread a couple days ago.

Guess all you keyboard warriors know boxing better than Roach.

this isn't boxing, its mma

and yeah, GSP would beat the shit outta Diaz
No he wouldn't and they didn't ask if GSP would attempt to box Nick in a boxing match they asked if the planned to strike with nick in a mma fight and the answer was no, they needed to refine more...

do you really think that GSP's camp is gonna make they're gameplan public?
Did the public not know his gameplan?

Because exotic aliens on a undiscovered planet we didn't know existed, already know gsp's gameplan....

I figured that you would have an invalid reply.

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Krookedkemp Member Since: 1/7/13 Posts: 0	Im gonna guess allot of you also thought nick diaz beat condit... Cause condit is definitely a better striker then diaz and look what gsp did to him. And there is no way diaz will land anything near that head kick Bring on the butt hurt diaz fans. You have ignored this user.

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