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UnderGround Forum >> The reason Anderson wants Le... Etc
| 1/27/13 7:23 PM | |
Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 6071 |
UGCTT_zackthewop -Anderson Ducking Weidman -Am I wrong?UGCTT_zackthewop -LolAnderson Ducking Weidman - Cung is not a draw. Is he a bigger name than Weidman? Yes, but any marginal advantage he has in name value is outweighed by the fact that its a matchup that makes no sense. Is cung in the top 20? It would not be a bigger ppv than an undefeated prospect who has the style to beat Anderson.Cung beat ace Given the point in time it happened I say yes. I just don't think ace could cut anymore (85-95) at all really. If it was back in the day I'd say 100 percent. I don't think Munoz was a great #3 no question but I'd say at this juncture of Ace's carrier (and being it was at 85) a win over Munoz is better (granted I DO think the MW ranking are from hunger though, back then too but it was slim pickens). |
| 1/27/13 9:49 PM | |
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Anderson Ducking Weidman
Member Since: 8/6/08 Posts: 21636 |
Virginio -Anderson Ducking Weidman - Cung is not a draw. Is he a bigger name than Weidman? Yes, but any marginal advantage he has in name value is outweighed by the fact that its a matchup that makes no sense. Is cung in the top 20? It would not be a bigger ppv than an undefeated prospect who has the style to beat Anderson.Is it just me, or did the UFC just debut in China with Cung Le as the headliner. For you to say he's not a draw (especially in one of the major markets that the UFC is pushing into) is just plain ignorant. wtf r u babbling about. weidman headlined a card too. dosnt mean shit. cung certainly isnt a bigger name than bonner and that card only did like 300-400k buys |
| 1/27/13 10:06 PM | |
s3xyama
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Member Since: 3/9/10 Posts: 135 |
Atm moment Le is a bigger draw than boner, considering his positive test and retirement. 
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| 1/27/13 11:05 PM | |
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Anderson Ducking Weidman
Member Since: 8/6/08 Posts: 21639 |
s3xyama - Atm moment Le is a bigger draw than boner, considering his positive test and retirement.Wat? Obviously talking about when he fought bonner. Anyone that thinks a Rockhold or a cung is going to add a significant number of buys over a Weidman is delusional. Do I think Weidman is a draw? No but none of those guys will bring in bigger ppv buys. 
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| 1/27/13 11:07 PM | |
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mijo
Member Since: 3/13/02 Posts: 5264 |
Anderson Ducking Weidman -s3xyama - Atm moment Le is a bigger draw than boner, considering his positive test and retirement.Wat? Obviously talking about when he fought bonner. Anyone that thinks a Rockhold or a cung is going to add a significant number of buys over a Weidman is delusional. Do I think Weidman is a draw? No but none of those guys will bring in bigger ppv buys. I think to the hardcore fan. Weidman is the fight we all want to see. Overall though. Cung Le brings in better buys. |
| 1/27/13 11:19 PM | |
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superCulo
Member Since: 6/6/12 Posts: 277 |
LETMEBANGBRO - He's ducking Weidman !! Weidman is a massive draw and has crushed all the top names at 185 !!Weidman is not a draw at all, even a lot of the hardcore fans have no interest in that fight.
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| 1/27/13 11:22 PM | |
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MrNiceguy66
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Member Since: 6/23/12 Posts: 60 |
It's all part of the master plan. To get everyone thinking AS is ducking and refusing fights, so that he has more negotiating leverage, gets more money to actually fight CW, after Dana worked so hard to make that fight "happen". At the same time all this does is build value to CWs name, the guy who is supposedly a nightmare match up for the champ, which will I turn sell more PPVs. Marketing genius. If AS said yes to Chaels rematch right away, he wouldn't have made as much money as he did. Of course this could be total bullshit since I'm talking out of my ass, but it makes you think hmmmmm could this be happening, or is this really good weed?
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| 1/27/13 11:35 PM | |
The Mouth
Member Since: 12/8/03 Posts: 23230 |
Anderson Ducking Weidman -s3xyama - Atm moment Le is a bigger draw than boner, considering his positive test and retirement.Wat? Obviously talking about when he fought bonner. Anyone that thinks a Rockhold or a cung is going to add a significant number of buys over a Weidman is delusional. Do I think Weidman is a draw? No but none of those guys will bring in bigger ppv buys. Cung would.
Especially from a style stance. |
| 1/28/13 1:02 AM | |
dermotfix
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Member Since: 7/23/09 Posts: 1524 |
I really think AS should vacate the title, step aside. He has no more history to make. Surely he has accomplished all his goals? Then he can just fight whoever the fuck he wants at lhw/catchweight and fans like me would watch every one. |
| 1/28/13 1:36 AM | |
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mijo
Member Since: 3/13/02 Posts: 5266 |
TheMentalisT -LETMEBANGBRO - He's ducking Weidman !! Weidman is a massive draw and has crushed all the top names at 185 !! Great fighter by beating Mark Munoz, and Damian Maia. |
| 1/28/13 1:42 AM | |
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The Mouth
Member Since: 12/8/03 Posts: 23233 |
mijo -TheMentalisT -LETMEBANGBRO - He's ducking Weidman !! Weidman is a massive draw and has crushed all the top names at 185 !! He LEGIT struggled with Maia. |
| 1/28/13 2:08 AM | |
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knuckleballs
Member Since: 3/2/07 Posts: 2483 |
Rockhold, Lombard, Mousasi (who is actually smaller than anderson, but refuses to cut) and Weidman are all dangerous and awesome fights in the making. |
| 1/28/13 2:45 AM | |
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Mayweedz
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Member Since: 12/30/00 Posts: 1106 |
Fighting Cung Le in Macau would give Anderson pretty quick access to some name recognition in an untamed and potential growing market. Cung Le really needs 1 - 2 more fights and wins and some conditioning training though...although he is only getting older and the longer he waits, the more likely he is to get an injury or loss away from ending his career. Interesting fight style matchup, but would be an extremely difficult fight for Cung Le (although I guess anyone would have a hard time with Anderson). Main problem is Cung Le would have a hard time lasting 5 rounds. Anderson never gasses and with his style of fighting he could easily back up and evade until Cung Le gasses. Cung Le does have some crazy advancing abilities and reach with those kicks of his, but Anderson has crazy timing and counter punches that knock people like no other. Cung Le rarely gets hit by anyone even people of decent striking pedigree, but Anderson uses unorthodox movement. I have kind of wanted to see this match up for a while, although it is maybe 5 years too late, but if it does not happen soon it will likely not happen at all. Such an interesting match up style wise. Lombard and Weidman vs Anderson are bound to happen they are all on an unavoidable collision course if Anderson does sign a 10 fight deal. Anderson is no fool though. I am sure he wants those fights towards the end of those 10 fights when his career is going to be catching up with him, regardless. These fights haven't built up the ppv anticipation and those fights have risks to them. The sooner he looses the belt the sooner he loses his payday. I honestly do not think Anderson is afraid of losing per say. I do think he is afraid of the possibility of losing the big paydays and sponsorship. |
| 1/28/13 2:47 AM | |
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Klownoh
Member Since: 11/8/10 Posts: 150 |
The Mouth - Comes down to his portion of PPV revenue.Cus its a fight he's confident in winning I think is the bigger reason. I'm not a Silva hater I think he's amazing just feel he doesn't want to lose now so he'd rather not fight the guys who could give him problems in a fight like Weidman.
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| 1/28/13 2:53 AM | |
DirtehSneakehs
Member Since: 9/10/12 Posts: 101 |
Let's put the whole Luke is too unknown to be a big draw nonsense to rest with the simple reminder of GSP vs. SHIELDS. Everyone knows GSP, but Shields was pretty much unknown outside the "hardcore" fans, and so by that logic you displayed that means it wouldn't be a big draw. But lo and behold, it became the biggest ufc event and absolutely smashed records like never before. Or did you forget about that?
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| 1/30/13 5:06 PM | |
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Forssberg
Member Since: 10/24/04 Posts: 4188 |
Anderson Ducking Weidman -Forssberg - AS is not ducking anyone. It's a negotiating ploy that AS and Soares repeat over and over again before agreeing to a fight. They know if Dana wants a fight bad enough that he will give in.Nope. Did u see them doing the same thing with Bisbing? Nope. As a matter of fact I did. AS' camp had been ranting on Bisping's unworthiness for a long time prior to that. |
| 1/30/13 5:50 PM | |
hockey fighter
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1687 |
TOAO - Weidman is a really low drawIMO Thays the only reason he hasn't received a title shot. The UFC threw him in vs Munoz as a measuring stick to see how far he could go and he passed the test with flying colors!! I don't think ANYone saw that coming, and the aftermath of hype followed. Wiedman is legit, so is Le, so is Rockhold. But from a PPV stance Le has more fans and drawing power given he's been a household name in Strikeforce for many many years.
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| 1/30/13 5:50 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 6136 |
Forssberg -Anderson Ducking Weidman -Forssberg - AS is not ducking anyone. It's a negotiating ploy that AS and Soares repeat over and over again before agreeing to a fight. They know if Dana wants a fight bad enough that he will give in.Nope. Did u see them doing the same thing with Bisbing? Nope. Source? He has positioned for that fight for A VERY long while! AS fans called it a $$ fight to support it. The fight was going to be easy murder plain and simple. |
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