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Redneck 47 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Alex Jones has shown the Black Helicopters and foreign military training inside U.S. running drills.  They have ranges for drills like this why need to take it to the live city streets?.  

 

 

 


It was always the plan to take it to the streets of downtown 'Murica, they just do these things gradually, so that people like Naderhood don't notice and think that it's normal.

 

 

 

Notice also the change from cops wearing traditional cop uniforms, to being dressed in black, with a flak jacket and an assault rilfe. Now we have the military openly training with the para-military police, using urban settings, and unsuspecting civillians, for "training" purposes.

And the need to use the machine gun as the chopper flew over the people, whether it was armed or not, WTF?

The apologists for tyrannny will always argue that its a good thing to have the military on every street corner, and to see militar vehicles cruising down the main street, and ilitary drones and choppers in the skies above. But in reality, ask yourselves which contries are known for doing this? Nazi Germany, the USSR,   North Korea, Libya, just to name a few, and i'm sure there were people making excuses for thos dictatorships as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1/29/13 2:50 PM
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Redneck 47 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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1/29/13 3:09 PM
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WidespreadPanic 285 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Minimize, as in try not to shoot off both of a person's arms due to ricochets, or destroy both their cars, or kill all their dogs, by accident.

Gee, nice.

 

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That is both sad and scary at the same time.  WTF has happened to this country?

1/29/13 3:49 PM
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"Alex Jones has shown the Black Helicopters and foreign military training inside U.S. running drills. They have ranges for drills like this why need to take it to the live city streets"



There were a couple of those helicopters flying around downtown Minneapolis a few months ago (someone even made a thread about it)..

If you're not familiar this area, there is only one place within hundreds of miles with a building over 5 stories - Minneapolis/St. Paul.. So, no, there are no "ranges for that".

Not really that strange to think that soldiers in my area would eventually need that kind of training too.
1/29/13 3:54 PM
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

Dude, since the begining of civilizations it was always governments keeping thier people so they could maintain power. No different than today. This was always the story.

Governments are the no 1 murderers of humans. Ever.

Remember Iraq? Weapons of mass destruction. The whole world knew that was a lie. So the US is MURDERING ITS OWN SOLDIERS and innocent people. MURDER.

What about Iran? I hope to God you don't get behind "your" government and believe "we have to attack Iran befor they attack us" horseshit. They are doing the same thing. How? Because the US is littered with Naders that believe what thier daddy(governments) tell them.
1/29/13 3:56 PM
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Not to mention scaring the shit oout of the public.
1/29/13 4:04 PM
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

and some people will keep their heads in the sand when the evidence is right in front of them, plain as day.
1/29/13 4:13 PM
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Where does it state they were firing guns over Miami? I must have missed that in the article.
1/29/13 4:18 PM
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

You seem to be willing to include everyone in "you guys" as long as it makes you feel comfortable. You're only sensitive to this shit because you recently had a kid and the thought that everyone might not be OK scares you. You gonna teach your kid to never ask questions?

You don't have to buy into conspiracy theories to think police and military conducting drills in a populated city without warning is a bit odd. If they're training for missions overseas like they claimed why are police necessary? If it's disaster training then why were people not notified? What type of drill is it? When people ask these questions why is it appropriate to dismiss them as being paranoid or a wingnut? Why are you on such a mission to attack anyone that says something not widely reported by the MSM?
1/29/13 4:31 PM
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

You seem to be willing to include everyone in "you guys" as long as it makes you feel comfortable. You're only sensitive to this shit because you recently had a kid and the thought that everyone might not be OK scares you. You gonna teach your kid to never ask questions?

You don't have to buy into conspiracy theories to think police and military conducting drills in a populated city without warning is a bit odd. If they're training for missions overseas like they claimed why are police necessary? If it's disaster training then why were people not notified? What type of drill is it? When people ask these questions why is it appropriate to dismiss them as being paranoid or a wingnut? Why are you on such a mission to attack anyone that says something not widely reported by the MSM?
LOL @ this bush league psychogist muthafucka

No, I think it's retarded for people like you to actually think that the government wants to hers erryone up like cattle. Do you know who works for the government? Other fucking people like u and me. People who think the same as anyone else. If they were training to take over the citizens do you think that the millions and millions of people working for the government might NOT think that's cool? Do you k ow where the most likely crime and abductions and terrorist situations are most likely to happen? Highly populated urban areas, so why wouldn't they train there? What good does it do to train in the desert for an urban scenario? Pull your head out of your Freud and Nietzsche books and get some common sense. Phone Post
1/29/13 4:33 PM
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Also, maybe the police are playing the role of whatever host country police the Feds would be working with in whatever foreign country they're going to? Ever think of that? Ever think for a second that maybe it's not big brother training to herd you up into a little metal cage? Phone Post
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Lol at the paranoia. Get a grip folks. Phone Post
1/29/13 4:48 PM
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All this police and military hate is hilarious.

I agree 100%, we should disband the military, let people police themselves, but without assualt rifles since those are evil, and leave foreign affairs to someone else.

As someone who has trained with local law enforcement on numerous occasions, they are thankful for the opportunity.

Criminals tactics are becoming more and more violent and they are getting better training. Some gangs are having new members join the military recieve training and teach these tactics to the rest of the gang. Police need this training to combat the ruthless drug cartels and the extremely violent methods they are using to achieve their goals.

But your conspiracy theroy sounds way better than facts.
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

You seem to be willing to include everyone in "you guys" as long as it makes you feel comfortable. You're only sensitive to this shit because you recently had a kid and the thought that everyone might not be OK scares you. You gonna teach your kid to never ask questions?

You don't have to buy into conspiracy theories to think police and military conducting drills in a populated city without warning is a bit odd. If they're training for missions overseas like they claimed why are police necessary? If it's disaster training then why were people not notified? What type of drill is it? When people ask these questions why is it appropriate to dismiss them as being paranoid or a wingnut? Why are you on such a mission to attack anyone that says something not widely reported by the MSM?
LOL @ this bush league psychogist muthafucka

No, I think it's retarded for people like you to actually think that the government wants to hers erryone up like cattle. Do you know who works for the government? Other fucking people like u and me. People who think the same as anyone else. If they were training to take over the citizens do you think that the millions and millions of people working for the government might NOT think that's cool? Do you k ow where the most likely crime and abductions and terrorist situations are most likely to happen? Highly populated urban areas, so why wouldn't they train there? What good does it do to train in the desert for an urban scenario? Pull your head out of your Freud and Nietzsche books and get some common sense. Phone Post

I love posts like this. "Who do you think works for the government, people like you and me?"

Who worked for the governments in Nazi Germany? Communist Russia and East Germany? Any totalitarian state for that matter. The governments are staffed by everyday people like you and me.

Who do you think works for the NSA, the CIA, the FBI? your friends, relatives and neighbors? People just like you and me who need to feed their families and who are given a small piece of the puzzle (picture). Yes if they were given the entire picture they would be up in arms, but they aren't.

It is death by a thousand cuts not one large one. And each cut (nick)while annoying is not going to cause a massive blood loss, but over time the cumulative effect wilkl be "death"
1/29/13 5:30 PM
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It's not a conspiracy, it is reality.

FISA Courts
Patriot Act
NDAA 2012-2013
TrapWire
Militarization of police forces
Warrantless wiretaps and spying on Americans
Assassination of Americans
The Presidents secret "kill list"
The war on whistleblowers
Indefinite detentions
HR347 http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

You may want to keep your head in the sand and not believe it but the truth is the Bill Of Rights has been shredded and the U.S. as the "land of the free" is no more.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/28/pentagon-cyber-security-expansion-stuxnet

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Yeah nothing to see here.
1/29/13 6:53 PM
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Naderhood 418 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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LOL

Tidbits is too far gone, gents. Conspiracy Ground has him and we won't be getting him back. By now he's stockpiling dried milk and beef jerky in Northern Maine while waiting out the government ordered death camps. Phone Post
1/29/13 9:01 PM
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Naderhood -  LOL

Tidbits is too far gone, gents. Conspiracy Ground has him and we won't be getting him back. By now he's stockpiling dried milk and beef jerky in Northern Maine while waiting out the government ordered death camps. Phone Post

Really? 2 reputable news sources make me crazy?

So go ahead and tell me how the following are completely Constitutional and the government would never do anything bad or wrong. that they will only be used to catch "terrorists"

FISA Courts


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121213/23443021384/fisa-amendments-act-is-clearly-unconstitutional-congress-doesnt-care.shtml

Patriot Act


http://www.scn.org/ccapa/pa-vs-const.html

http://www.studentpulse.com/articles/622/the-constitutionality-of-the-patriot-act-examining-section-213

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20999950/ns/us_news-security/t/judge-rules-part-patriot-act-unconstitutional/

http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/a-decade-of-patriot-act-abuses/

http://rt.com/usa/news/senators-patriot-government-law-749/

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-releases-comprehensive-report-patriot-act-abuses


NDAA 2012-2013


http://amberlyonlive.com/2012/10/10/how-the-ndaa-is-a-direct-threat-to-average-americans-protesters-journalists/

TrapWire


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrapWire

http://storify.com/bendoernberg/test-post

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/trapwire-surveillance-really-spying-americans-939948

http://gawker.com/5934302/everything-you-need-to-know-about-trapwire-the-surveillance-system-everyone-is-freaking-out-about


Militarization of police forces
Warrantless wiretaps and spying on Americans
Assassination of Americans

The Presidents secret "kill list"


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The war on whistleblowers


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/28/obamas-war-on-whistleblowers/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleblowers-stuxnet-leaks-drones

Indefinite detentions see NDAA

HR347

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp


So please tell me how this makes me crazy? You are the one denying the reality, living in your own fantasy world. That is the definition of crazy.
1/29/13 9:10 PM
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^^^You just buried Nader in the hood with that post.

Ouch!! hahahahah
1/29/13 9:20 PM
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Naderhood -  Some of you guys will look for anything to turn into an anti-government post Phone Post

and some people will keep their heads in the sand when the evidence is right in front of them, plain as day.

Sad but true.

Anyone that cant see what is wrong with this must be a lost soul or just very naive.
1/29/13 10:09 PM
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Cops or the military, wouldn't open fire on U.S citizens. So I wouldn't worry.
1/29/13 10:13 PM
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Aren't there training facilities to conduct, these types of "Drills"?
1/29/13 10:18 PM
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Question for Redneck

 

Has anything ever effected your way of life or you personally that you would classify as "conspiracy?" 

 

I mean I am pretty well read and well versed in history both what is written and what others believe but truth be told other then a cop being a bit over agressive when I got arrested one time and some other minor bullshit I have never had anyone do anything that I would consider to be out of the ordinary.

 

Is it worth it to spend all of your time finding out what could be happening instead of just enjoying your life? I mean all this shit causes people to worry all the time and it may  be uncessarily.  Until I am in a fema prison camp I am not going to worry about all this shit anymore.   My grandfather my father and I have all just worked, played by the rules to an extent and never had anything happen to us that anyone would consider "crazy" or conspiracy so why focus so much time on the what ifs? What if the Mariana Island chain sunk and a huge tidal wave destroyed the eastern seaboard?  Nothing I can do about it...

On another note I know a shit load of cops and most of them families like the rest of us. Yeah they are tired of dealing with the scum of the earth and can be pricks at times but the ones I know are not involved in any conspiracy and are just doing there jobs and then going home to their wife and kids.  

Has anyone EVER met someone part of a militia or anything of that nature?  

 

 

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TryhardNobody - Here is some info you may not have heard before. They want rifles taken away from ppl because they are going to fill the sky with drones. Pistols wont be able to hit them. Rifles will.

 

Lol...

 

 

What for? To shoot people for going to work?  Just dont be a shithead and people dont have anything to worry about.  

 

Our real problem in America is the economy and the way of living.  Granted we could be faced with massive poverty and food shortages and that could cause civil unrest.  I wouldnt worry so much about drones.  

 

i dont agree with ban on guns at all but not because of the guns but because it is just another right they are trying to take away.  I gotta get off this site, too many whistle blowing paranoid freaks.  I just want to live my life and not worry about all this bullshit, there is too much to worry about when it comes to daily life and family to worry about fucking drones in the sky.

1/29/13 10:32 PM
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Dale_Gribble_BJJ - Cops or the military, wouldn't open fire on U.S citizens. So I wouldn't worry.

How old are you?

Look up Kent State massacre.

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