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2/2/13 8:02 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
spg 25 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 10330	I was just checking out some potential bets for the fights tonight, and noticed that Nogueira is as high as +440. Does this surprise anyone else? I know that Evans is a favorite and will probably wrestle/L&P his way to a decision - but Nogueira is one tough dude with incredible boxing and some totally legit skills. I was expecting Rashad to be the favorite, but +440 is pretty extreme.

2/2/13 8:03 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
NiteProwleR 98 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 27239	that is pretty unrealistic. Nog looks to be in great shape and could pull the upset off. You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 8:06 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
the ridler 71 Member Since: 6/22/04 Posts: 1209	Rashad is way too fast and his wrestling is too good to be taken down by nog. You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 9:26 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
k1levelstriking 9 Member Since: 1/20/11 Posts: 976	Nogueira has struggled with lesser (MMA) wrestlers like Bader and Davis, no reason to doubt Rashad can out wrestle him for the win You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 9:29 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
RobinVanRooney Member Since: 11/17/11 Posts: 4643	Hoping for Nog to KO Shad. You have ignored this user.

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RJJH Member Since: 6/9/09 Posts: 15424	k1levelstriking - Nogueira has struggled with lesser (MMA) wrestlers like Bader and Davis, no reason to doubt Rashad can out wrestle him for the win unfortunately this. You have ignored this user.

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Pessimist_Pete Member Since: 9/3/12 Posts: 1475	lmao did you see him fight Bader, Davis, or Brilz? they only reason Tito didn't wrestle fuck Nog also is because Tito's shot is essentially nonexistent due to his back and neck issues You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 10:34 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Herring In A Fur Coat Member Since: 4/27/08 Posts: 19545 FightMatrix.com, MMA Rankings	Not surprised at all, Evans is a really bad matchup for him. You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 10:34 AM

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k1levelstriking - Nogueira has struggled with lesser (MMA) wrestlers like Bader and Davis, no reason to doubt Rashad can out wrestle him for the win

Did you even watch those fights lol

Nogueria stuft a majority of their takedowns and out boxed both of them on the feet

Both of those fights are the prime examples of how MMA scoring always favors the American wrestler

They defiently didnt prove to be better fighters then Nogueria

They simply stalled out the fight until time ran out

Anyway

Rashad was almost finished by an injured Thiago

If Thiago can almost do it, then Nougeria can do it!

Nogueria is a much better boxer and has much much better accuracy

See two can play that game

Hi Thiaguy, DIE Thiaguy.

2/2/13 10:35 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
xakx Member Since: 3/30/04 Posts: 20127	Anyone know where I can go to put some money on Nog? You have ignored this user.

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Herring In A Fur Coat Member Since: 4/27/08 Posts: 19547 FightMatrix.com, MMA Rankings	Put money on it if you think those odds are good. You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 11:27 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Nexuscrawlers Member Since: 10/23/09 Posts: 8211	Not surprised, but I will be rooting hard for Nog! You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 11:36 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
explodin Member Since: 6/25/05 Posts: 2597	How do you think Nog could win? You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 11:46 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Saltyballs 87 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 7028	After watching Lil Nog vs Davis, no I'm not surprised at all. Rashad will do the exact same. You have ignored this user.

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pidgey 2 Member Since: 2/27/11 Posts: 2015	not at all. Lil Nog lost to Bader and Phil Davis, who are lesser versions of Rashad. i know, mmath, but still... Heres hoping for shadface 2.0 but not many hopes of seeing it. You have ignored this user.

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mose Member Since: 4/13/07 Posts: 560	Those odds are giving Nog a little less than 1/5 chance of winning this fight. I actually think that is pretty accurate, so even though the +440 looks gaudy, it does not represent much, if any, value. You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 2:52 PM

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minotauro11 23 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I thought he'd be more like 300. In my opinion he beat Bader and narrowly lost to Davis, and his takedown defense is getting much better. I probably won't pick him to win but at those odds he's not an awful bet, he's the better striker with improving takedown defense and extremely dangerous Jiujitsu.

Another thing to consider is that he's a southpaw which Machida really struggled with against Machida (Nog's training partner). Phone Post

2/2/13 2:54 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
RobinVanRooney Member Since: 11/17/11 Posts: 4648	explodin - How do you think Nog could win? KO obviously You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 4:09 PM

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Herring In A Fur Coat -
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k1levelstriking - Nogueira has struggled with lesser (MMA) wrestlers like Bader and Davis, no reason to doubt Rashad can out wrestle him for the win

Did you even watch those fights lol

Nogueria stuft a majority of their takedowns and out boxed both of them on the feet

Both of those fights are the prime examples of how MMA scoring always favors the American wrestler

They defiently didnt prove to be better fighters then Nogueria

They simply stalled out the fight until time ran out

Anyway

Rashad was almost finished by an injured Thiago

If Thiago can almost do it, then Nougeria can do it!

Nogueria is a much better boxer and has much much better accuracy

See two can play that game

Hi Thiaguy, DIE Thiaguy.

he's right you idiot, Little Nog has good TDD, has KO power and reach advantage. Rashad also has an average chin at best, Shad is slight favorite based on recent results but not by much.

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OCMikelob 91 Member Since: 12/28/12 Posts: 444	Herring In A Fur Coat - Not surprised at all, Evans is a really bad matchup for him. This You have ignored this user.

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k1levelstriking - Nogueira has struggled with lesser (MMA) wrestlers like Bader and Davis, no reason to doubt Rashad can out wrestle him for the win

Did you even watch those fights lol

Nogueria stuft a majority of their takedowns and out boxed both of them on the feet

Both of those fights are the prime examples of how MMA scoring always favors the American wrestler

They defiently didnt prove to be better fighters then Nogueria

They simply stalled out the fight until time ran out

Anyway

Rashad was almost finished by an injured Thiago

If Thiago can almost do it, then Nougeria can do it!

Nogueria is a much better boxer and has much much better accuracy

See two can play that game

So you say rashard by dec then? Phone Post

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BobSherob 8 Member Since: 12/17/09 Posts: 294	It's just a good line for the bookies to make money. Rashad will win regardless. But put a big enough line on it and people will jump on nog as an upset and plenty of easy money will roll the bookies way. Closer odds would be a waste of money You have ignored this user.

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Size Member Since: 7/12/12 Posts: 610	The bookies don't try to "trick" people into betting on one fighter or another. The fact is, and you can dress it up however you want, but Nog lost to Phil Davis, so why would he beat someone that's better than Phil Davis in every way, after a year layoff? You have ignored this user.

2/2/13 8:54 PM

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Size - The bookies don't try to "trick" people into betting on one fighter or another. The fact is, and you can dress it up however you want, but Nog lost to Phil Davis, so why would he beat someone that's better than Phil Davis in every way, after a year layoff?

"The bookies don't try to "trick" people into betting on one fighter or another"

Uh yeah thays exactly what bookoes try to do. They sway the lines to get the action going one way or another. Its all about money for them. You are totally clueless

Bookies aren't in it to gamble, they want equal money on both sides. Walking around with that thick of a skull on your shoulders must be a real bitch!

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JeffersonDArcyChoke 59 Member Since: 11/24/10 Posts: 12426	Herring In A Fur Coat - Not surprised at all, Evans is a really bad matchup for him. This. It's a squash match. Just like Bigfoot-Reem. Both are to showcase the winner for a title fight. You have ignored this user.

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