UnderGround Forum >> Randy isn't welcome at UFC events!

Brian J DSouza - 

Othello - Only move Zuffa had. All the people defending Couture, if you were running a business, would you really want one of your competitors to have the chance to advertise his product on your time?? Especially one that appears to be as dishonest as Randy Couture has shown himself. Just doesn't make sense.

If I was running a business that had the absolute biggest and best fighters in the world locked down into contracts, and was acquiring the other stars of other orgs (Alvarez, Melendez, etc), I wouldn't worry about someone who had long since retired and wasn't contractually bound to my business.

I would also pick up the phone or chat in-person rather than relaying my dissatisfaction through the media, giving my competitor's free publicity/press or using a mouthpiece/sock puppet on the UG.

 

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

Cindy

MMALOGIC - 

D241 - 

MMALOGIC - 

D241 - 

Can Dana ban Randy from cornering a fighter? Under what grounds?

zuffa can ban anyone from the arena.

You attempted 1 out of 2 of my questions. The 2nd one that went unanswered is really the important one.

 

 

MMALOGIC -  if i was randy i would have been honest with dana and said look, spike is offering me this deal...  zuffa would have  have given him the same or better deal and you have the luxury of knowing they will be around for a long time. if bellator shuts it's doors in a few years - like every other promotion that tried competing with the UFC has - and zuffa has closed it's doors to you... what then?

How do you know that Randy didn't ask for a certain figure with UFC, but UFC didn't want to pay,and they compromised.....then Randy gets the offer he WANTED from Bellator, and Randy knew that he just negotiated a deal with UFC which was the max UFC was willing to pay out, so he went with the higher paying job?  My guess is you, nor I, know that answer, so it's pure assumptions.

 

If Bellator shuts down in a few years, there will always be a #2 organization. What's stopping Randy from going to the next #2?

zuffa rents out the arenas... that's what gives them the grounds. you rent out a hall for a wedding or whatever event you can invite or ban whoever you want.

Ask Frank SHamrock how jumping from one #2 to the next has worked out for him...

yeah because giving randy undeserved shots at ufc title had nothing to do with zuffa's financial interest, dana did it just out of the goodness of his heart

lol

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

whadafykumeanitstaken - Would anyone really be surprised if there was motre to it that DFW is not telling us about? Pffft.


hey Cindy, will DFW be removing Randy from the UFC Hall of Fame because of the way Randy chose to handle a personal business matter with a man who has repeatedly shown he will fuck people over for his own gain?

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

nostripewhite - 

Brian J DSouza - 

Othello - Only move Zuffa had. All the people defending Couture, if you were running a business, would you really want one of your competitors to have the chance to advertise his product on your time?? Especially one that appears to be as dishonest as Randy Couture has shown himself. Just doesn't make sense.

If I was running a business that had the absolute biggest and best fighters in the world locked down into contracts, and was acquiring the other stars of other orgs (Alvarez, Melendez, etc), I wouldn't worry about someone who had long since retired and wasn't contractually bound to my business.

I would also pick up the phone or chat in-person rather than relaying my dissatisfaction through the media, giving my competitor's free publicity/press or using a mouthpiece/sock puppet on the UG.

 

I believe Dana is so upset because Randy lied to him as a man, and he can't talk to him about it privately because Randy won't take his calls.

That is the only thing DW is pissed about. He doesn't care that Randy is gone or that he went to Bellator/Spike. He's pissed because he was done with this guy until they started bugging for a non-fighting job so DW got him on the Fox desk. He had 4 shows on his contract and simply bailed on the 4th one, which was very weird considering how much effort they went thru to get back with Team Zuffa, which could have led to more opportunities for Randy (like it ALWAYS has). But Randy wasn't interested in building anything with Zuffa like they thought he was and he bailed at the first opportunity w/o being honest when confronted with the Bellator rumor. In fact, he lied. Par for the course, IMO.

Any man who can't even handle how to leave a job appropriately and relies on texts and faxes to get it done is simply pathetic. LOL@ asking a favor (in this case, a job) from someone you want to act like is your buddy only to turn around and bail on the job and the company you talked your way back into... for their competitor. And then to lie about it and STILL not pick up the phone! What a joke! The way Randy handled it is why DW is pissed, NOT because he left. Hopefully, DW is done with him now and will know NOT to buy a dayum thing this guy is selling in the future if things go bad with Bellator and he tries to get back in the good graces of Zuffa... again.

Cindy

PeteyWheatstraw - "That is the only thing DW is pissed about. He doesn't care that Randy is gone or that he went to Bellator/Spike. He's pissed because he was done with this guy until they started bugging for a non-fighting job so DW got him on the Fox desk. He had 4 shows on his contract and simply bailed on the 4th one, which was very weird considering how much effort they went thru to get back with Team Zuffa, which could have led to more opportunities for Randy (like it ALWAYS has). But Randy wasn't interested in building anything with Zuffa like they thought he was and he bailed at the first opportunity w/o being honest when confronted with the Bellator rumor. In fact, he lied. Par for the course, IMO.

Any man who can't even handle how to leave a job appropriately and relies on texts and faxes to get it done is simply pathetic. LOL@ asking a favor (in this case, a job) from someone you want to act like is your buddy only to turn around and bail on the job and the company you talked your way back into... for their competitor. And then to lie about it and STILL not pick up the phone! What a joke! The way Randy handled it is why DW is pissed, NOT because he left. Hopefully, DW is done with him now and will know NOT to buy a dayum thing this guy is selling in the future if things go bad with Bellator and he tries to get back in the good graces of Zuffa... again."

The way you are spitting negative shit about a fighter on a message board is more pathetic. I don't know Randy, but I respect his accomplishments and he's a grown man and can do whatever he wants. Even if I did think bad about the business actions of a fighter, I wouldn't be on here bleating about it and insulting him like some goddamn nerd.

Please shut the fuck up. CO knows what she's talking about, and is a font of inside information when it comes to DFW. If she's saying it here, its because she knows it to be true. It aint bashing if its true.

PeteyWheatstraw - "Please shut the fuck up. CO knows what she's talking about, and is a font of inside information when it comes to DFW. If she's saying it here, its because she knows it to be true. It aint bashing if its true."

You're right, it's not bashing. You gotta have force to bash something. Dibbling out gossipy, insulting comments about fighters on the internet between slurps of chocolate milk has no force or energy behind it. Just trifling, weak emotions. Men handle business how they want. You don't like it, go tell Randy himself how upset you are about it and how you think he's pathetic. I'm sure he gives a shit.

Randy, is that you?!?

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

gabemadrid -

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

I <3 you

gabemadrid -

gabemadrid -

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

I <3 you

I <3 you

CindyO - 

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy

*starts slow clap*

I wanna see what happens when Randy is caught at the event without permission

you ain't welcome in this town no more Randy!

CindyO -

UGCTT_Shope - 

Attila -

CindyO - 

Chris27 - 

MMOZ - 

Why is Dana acting so butthurt about this? Randy did a lot for the UFC and sure Dana looked after him pretty well but he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Let it go Dana, be the bigger man.

Well he said they were good and then the Affliction/court shit happened, alot of things were said, Randy came back and it took a while but they sort of built up the relationship again I guess.

Then he gets the Fox job and then leaves to joint hte competition.

Its like fuck me once ok but fuck me twice, fuck you.

Honestly I'd be the same way, I just wouldnt keep talking about it, say what you got to say about Randy and then move on.

DW asked Randy about a deal with Bellator 4-5 weeks ago when the rumor began and Randy lied to him and said there was no way he'd ever do a deal with them. DW and Randy were in a really decent place so for Randy to handle things in this manner kinda sucks. But is anyone really that surprised? Pfft.

 

Cindy

Anyone else feel like they're back in high school?

No offense to Cindy, but I feel like you agree with Dana no matter what, it's annoying.

Love Dana, but he's acting way too butthurt here, imo.

Where Randy is concerned we rarely agree:)

He should have never let Randy come back when Captain America screwed Zuffa over before, but he did.

He shouldn't have been on the Fox desk to begin with because he didn't deserve it but they bugged the shit out of DW until he relented. He wishes he hadn't trusted this guy again, but he did.

Randy has screwed these guys in ways they haven't even mentioned over the years so for them to NOT be in business with him is best. I don't know how this guy has managed to get repeated opportunities with Zuffa that he never earned or deserved when there are/were many others that could have used a break or two. DW has always had a soft spot for Randy but I bet he learned his lesson this time.

And as far as other shit DW has done that I don't agree with, I think he was wrong in the way he handled the Rampage "juiced and on the loose" truck situation- he was more than supportive of Jackson in the media and less than respectful towards the woman he hit. He should have kept about half of his words in his mouth but he didn't.

Another thing would be I think he should have given Tim Sylvia another shot. He talks about 2nd chances and when Tim asked for one, and even got fans on his side, DW shut him down. Tim hadn't even been disrespectful to DW or about Zuffa/UFC after he left and was honest in that the move was for the money. I understand that much of what Tim do while he was away wasn't positive and his career took quite a hit based on decisions Tim made... but he needed a second chance and was shot down. Not that DW was right or wrong, just saying that Tim asked for a 2nd chance and I think he should have gotten it:)

And I have never agreed with DW that Fedor wasn't the best in the world because by all accounts he absolutely was and I have said this on the board many times:)

DW has done some dumb shit and trusting Randy is one of them. And like he said, talk to people who have been in business with Randy... in any way, shape or form, and you'll find out how scummy of a human being the guy is.

 

Cindy