UnderGround Forum >> Is TRT unjust, or worse, to Michael Bisping?
| 2/7/13 8:39 AM | |
Underground Blog
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What do these three Michael Bisping fights have in common? Hint: "At some point, as you start getting older, your balls don't work as well and you don't make as much testosterone. But, that's life and you deal with it."
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| 2/7/13 8:42 AM | |
Koreanflash
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Agreed. TRT is legalized cheating. |
| 2/7/13 8:44 AM | |
DOMINANTDAN#1FAN
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Member Since: 12/17/11 Posts: 1944 |
Koreanflash - Agreed. TRT is legalized cheating.Agreed, but it's never going to go away. Best thing any legit fighter can do is go to a crooked doctor and get a script. Even the playing field.
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| 2/7/13 8:45 AM | |
X_Rated
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Damned if you do damned if you don't imo
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| 2/7/13 8:51 AM | |
Don_Dada
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Definitely not a good look from the outside looking in to see all these fighters under the same promotion taking advantage of this stuff. I'm no doctor, but if someone could post a pic from the Jones vs Vitor weigh-in and tell me if Vitor looks like he's low on T. It's not natural to be 34 and produce the same amount of T as a 21 year old, It's just not. Not to mention the years of experience you have had all they years to add to that. Whatever as I said I'm no Doctor, I just don't like to see this kind of stuff in sports.
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| 2/7/13 9:22 AM | |
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NotJustA12er
Member Since: 1/23/12 Posts: 1808 |
If you can't beat em .... Join em ! Mike should Trt himself . It is just a case of being professional and treating his career to a leveller ( needs a level playing field to fight from ) so just get the job done mike ! Does anybody else not also see that two of the three hardest hitters in the division are on Trt .
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| 2/7/13 9:23 AM | |
zebers3
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So what's his excuse for losing to Wanderlei then? |
| 2/7/13 9:27 AM | |
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john_d1974
Member Since: 4/9/12 Posts: 190 |
X_Rated - Damned if you do damned if you don't imo yip, dude cant say anything without getting grief. |
| 2/7/13 9:30 AM | |
Heroic Rise
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In
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| 2/7/13 9:34 AM | |
J_Swift
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Bisping needs to get on it himself.
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| 2/7/13 9:38 AM | |
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LAE
Member Since: 4/25/11 Posts: 278 |
I dont get the whole "even playing feild" arguement for TRT. Its not even if some guys take drugs to get there. If you need TRT, get out of the sport. |
| 2/7/13 9:48 AM | |
Carne de cavalo é o melhor
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Member Since: 1/25/11 Posts: 2664 |
To achieve the highest levels of success, one must do what Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and schwarzenegger did: Work the system. Anyone who "plays by the rules" is a sucker. Read up on the Jewish text the Talmud. Jews are raised since birth to look to "work the system" Don't be a sucker
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| 2/7/13 9:51 AM | |
Card
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Member Since: 7/22/05 Posts: 30352 |
^ the thing is... it's not against the rules. |
| 2/7/13 9:55 AM | |
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DaleSonnen
Member Since: 8/28/12 Posts: 39 |
Does anyone know the list of fighters that are open about taking TRT? and ones that look like they are taking TRT? I bet alot of fighters would be on that list. |
| 2/7/13 10:03 AM | |
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Outlaw'd by Lytle
Member Since: 2/14/11 Posts: 6716 |
TRT sucks.
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| 2/7/13 10:39 AM | |
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Neil Funk
Member Since: 2/17/11 Posts: 8610 |
TRT is great for people who used to use steroids to cheat and now don't have normal test production. It's time for this to be banned from the sport. |
| 2/7/13 10:50 AM | |
3rdLion
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Member Since: 11/20/11 Posts: 3829 |
Neil Funk - TRT is great for people who used to use steroids to cheat and now don't have normal test production. It's time for this to be banned from the sport. Or for those running test with their cycle, it legitimises their steroid usage. It's bullshit. |
| 2/7/13 10:53 AM | |
Jmunzies
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Why is Bisping just presumed to be clean. Rampage called him out to Ariel, saying how he didnt like how bisping talked shit about people using TRT out. Rampage (his former teammate) said bisping "shouldnt be throwing stones when he lives in a glass house". |
| 2/7/13 10:55 AM | |
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BshMstr
Member Since: 10/13/09 Posts: 1306 |
while i don't have a problem with someone taking this legally, i do have some issues with how it's being implemented in the UFC... people can claim that "x" fighter is only bringing their natural levels back up, but back up to what? the highest level on can be at while still in the "normal" range? and more importantly, where were they at 10 years, 5, or 1 year ago? they have no real baseline...... if i was a UFC fighter, i can guarantee that i would use this, because i know i would get a competitive advantage from it, and it would still be within the rules. |
| 2/7/13 10:55 AM | |
john joe
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NotJustA12er - If you can't beat em .... theres a bit more to it than that use of TRT has implications for your long term health and your body's continued production of testosterone etc, its not like taking ibuprofen or something guys who have juiced for a long time use TRT with few issues because their body's test production is usually fucked already, but for a regular healthy average male its not something you necessarily want to play with not saying these current TRT users have all previously juiced but a high amount definitely have |
| 2/7/13 10:59 AM | |
fapout
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yeah, its because of TRT that Mike lost TRT= techinque..lmao TRT offers ZERO advantage. It just allows that person to fight at their full potential...legally. |
| 2/7/13 11:03 AM | |
DOMINANTDAN#1FAN
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Member Since: 12/17/11 Posts: 1950 |
Jmunzies - Why is Bisping just presumed to be clean.I've heard about that but not seen it, what exactly did Rampage say? Could he have been referring to the fact that he himself is on TRT given that they are/were close?
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| 2/7/13 11:07 AM | |
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Bisping KOd by CHRIST
Member Since: 1/13/13 Posts: 936 |
Nothing fighters do these days are natural. Unnatural doesnt mean its bad. Penicilin is unnatural. Cortezone shot are too. Why not ban flintstone vitamins? Trt or roids arent dangerous. Youll prob live longer if you take them. |
| 2/7/13 11:10 AM | |
Jmunzies
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DOMINANTDAN#1FAN -Jmunzies - Why is Bisping just presumed to be clean.I've heard about that but not seen it, what exactly did Rampage say? Could he have been referring to the fact that he himself is on TRT given that they are/were close? No, it was clear he was talking about bisping taking stuff. It was from this hour long video of Ariel and Rampage hanging out in New York and just talking about a lot of stuff. It was a really good watch. I watched it on monday on another thread, which I cant seem to find now. If you find the video, he starts talking about bisping at around 27 minutes. |
| 2/7/13 11:14 AM | |
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Galt
Member Since: 3/19/02 Posts: 3191 |
TRT is unfair and unnatural. |
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