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UnderGround Forum >> Koscheck: I'm not a fan of Nick Diaz
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Underground Blog
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| 2/8/13 1:09 AM | |
yellow c0ckahlc
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Kos, I am a fan of yours. Forgave you for infuriating Daley, but nonetheless, I am a fan. |
| 2/8/13 1:11 AM | |
GayGuardMooseSaucy
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Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease 
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| 2/8/13 1:18 AM | |
Da_man
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Kos gets subbed in that fight, it's about entertainment kos knows this that's all he did on tuf was talk shit. Maybe if he didn't lose to the champ twice already he would be a contender not a gatekeeper.
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| 2/8/13 1:18 AM | |
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ChimpFL
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GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease You high bro? |
| 2/8/13 1:31 AM | |
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Chupacabro
Member Since: 7/9/12 Posts: 22 |
"it's going to take a good wrestler who can stop his takedowns and has power in his hands and eventually knock him out." Is Kos predicting the impending dawn of the John Hendricks era?
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| 2/8/13 1:39 AM | |
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GayGuardMooseSaucy
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ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease
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| 2/8/13 1:44 AM | |
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mijo
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Kos beat Diaz 6-10 times. |
| 2/8/13 1:45 AM | |
nick diaz nut hugger
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GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease 1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz 2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying... 
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| 2/8/13 1:48 AM | |
NavyCorpsman
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| 2/8/13 1:51 AM | |
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in_different
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nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease Cant stop koschecks td. Lets not get out of hand, nuthugger |
| 2/8/13 1:52 AM | |
UGCTT_Edgar_Ate_My_Baby
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nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease CAN'T STOP! WON'T STOP!
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| 2/8/13 2:06 AM | |
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boomtown
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I'd like to see this fight happen just for all the shit talking from these guys. Kos by ud imo. |
| 2/8/13 2:07 AM | |
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GayGuardMooseSaucy
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nick diaz nut hugger -His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease Karo took him down 9x Diego took him down 5x Riggs 3x Gomi 3x I like you and understand you're a Diaz fan but we haven't seen Diaz against a very good wrestler in a while.
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| 2/8/13 2:08 AM | |
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Zed Wayne Zed
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I like this Koschek attitude with saying he knows he has to come and fight. I always liked his fights, but for a guy in limbo and with so much talent, that's a good thing to hear. But, man, how do you stay hungry with two planes? |
| 2/8/13 2:10 AM | |
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vaginal tear
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I'd like to see Kos drop to lightweight and fight bendo after a couple of wins. I think that would be a fun fight.
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| 2/8/13 2:14 AM | |
ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh
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GayGuardMooseSaucy -nick diaz nut hugger -His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease Agreed. Diaz will be able to avoid being stuck on bottom from some wrestlers, but the more athletic and powerful wrestlers like GSP, Kos, Hendricks, Ellenberger, Fitch and honestly maybe even Mike Pierce will give him serious problems. Unless he can pull off a sub from the bottom, I don't see him beating any of those guys. Ok, maybe he'd beat Mike Pierce. |
| 2/8/13 2:19 AM | |
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ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh
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vaginal tear - I'd like to see Kos drop to lightweight and fight bendo after a couple of wins. I think that would be a fun fight. Man I think that'd be a tough cut for Kos. Don't you think that Maynard vs Bendo is essentially the same fight though? I'm very interested in that matchup. |
| 2/8/13 2:19 AM | |
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UGCTT Molsonmuscle360
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vaginal tear - I'd like to see Kos drop to lightweight and fight bendo after a couple of wins. I think that would be a fun fight. Isn't Kos one of the biggest WW's on the roster?
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| 2/8/13 2:22 AM | |
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nick diaz nut hugger
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@gayguard - I'd have to rematch those fights to see how many td's he couldn't stop and how many he let happen tbh. I remember the reason he lost the Diego fight was the takedowns, but consider: Sherk 1/19 TD And Koscheck is no GSP; Kos' JDs are not nearly as explosive as GSP's. I don't think Diaz has a problem keeping Kos at bay while getting him to overcommit. Diaz would light him up and use an effective sprawl imo, and Koscheck would be ktfo around 3-4 round
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| 2/8/13 2:22 AM | |
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ThePeoplesYhundi
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boomtown - I'd like to see this fight happen just for all the shit talking from these guys.Yep would be a good staredown to.
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| 2/8/13 2:23 AM | |
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ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh
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nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease How about you back that statement up with facts? Name one decent wrestler that Diaz has beaten. What evidence is there to suggest he can stop a TD from a decent wrestler, let alone GSP/Kos? |
| 2/8/13 2:26 AM | |
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nick diaz nut hugger
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ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh -The evidence is him stopping 18/19 of Sherk's takedowns, whose takedowns are just as good as Koscheck's.nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease GSP will be a difficult fight, but Nick owns Koscheck
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| 2/8/13 2:35 AM | |
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ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh
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nick diaz nut hugger -ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh -The evidence is him stopping 18/19 of Sherk's takedowns, whose takedowns are just as good as Koscheck's.nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease
Ok -
I truly do like Nick Diaz. I think he's one of the most talented fighters on the UFC roster. He has amazing boxing, cardio, BJJ and perhaps most importantly is incredibly entertaining. If I was trying to introduce someone to MMA, Nick Diaz would be one of the first fighters I'd show them.
Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that both he and his brother are crippled by suspect TDD. If matched up against non-wrestlers, I have a really hard time seeing anyone beat them. However, whenever they fight big, strong and athletic wrestlers, my opinion is that the only chance they have of winning is by sub.
Funnily enough it's Nate who has had more success with wrestlers/grapplers. He's beaten Pellegrino, Miller and Gamburyan
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| 2/8/13 2:46 AM | |
RileyPust
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nick diaz nut hugger -GayGuardMooseSaucy -Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:ChimpFL -Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?GayGuardMooseSaucy - Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease To be fair, Koscheck's double leg is incredible. Sherk's is comparable, but I think Kos would dominate Sherk in terms of grappling. I actually think Nick would beat Josh, but I feel that his Nick's stance and fighting style would present Josh with a lot of opportunities to shoot the double. |
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