UnderGround Forum >> Daniel Cormier Reacts to IOC decision on espn

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit.

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

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Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

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Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

OK, I'm blowing smoke out of my ass, but when I call you out on your analogy you realize you are wrong so pretend you never said it? Who's blowing smoke up who's ass? 

Dressage exists because it's a rich person's sport and there are a ton of politics behind it's continuing. Have you see the IOC? One look at that white boy, rich club and you know why dressage will always be a sport. 

You say it's ratings, but that is a pile of hogwash. Many of the sports that are being kept no one watches. If you want to believe the party line from the IOC that it's about ratings, be my guest.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit.

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

 

 

 

I sincerely doubt ausgepichts's explanation of the IOC having to remove sports to somehow even the score.

 

If they wanted to do that, there are other sports much more heavily dominated by single countries. Table Tennis is basically all China. Basketball, all US. Archery, almost all South Korea.. etc.

 

The bottom line is that the Olympic games are incredibly expensive to host.

 

The 2012 London Olympics had a budget of £9.3 billion (~$14.5 billion)

 

In order for the hosts to break even, they have to sell tickets.

 

They probably quite simply looked at how many people bought tickets for wrestling, and decided it was an unacceptable expense.

 

Personally, I think they should seriously consider axing canoe slalom instead. Surely an extremely expensive venue to build (white water centre), and will see zero use after the games.

 

 

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit.

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

OK, I'm blowing smoke out of my ass, but when I call you out on your analogy you realize you are wrong so pretend you never said it? Who's blowing smoke up who's ass? 

Dressage exists because it's a rich person's sport and there are a ton of politics behind it's continuing. Have you see the IOC? One look at that white boy, rich club and you know why dressage will always be a sport. 

You say it's ratings, but that is a pile of hogwash. Many of the sports that are being kept no one watches. If you want to believe the party line from the IOC that it's about ratings, be my guest.

I didn't say shit about ratings. You're confusing my post with somebody else's. I said that it was politics with the IOC.

Since you're acknowledging the fact that IOC is in fact an old boys club dominated by a bunch of wealthy European elitists, I don't even know why you're bothering to defend your original assertion in this thread.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit.

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

 

 

 

I sincerely doubt ausgepichts's explanation of the IOC having to remove sports to somehow even the score.

 

If they wanted to do that, there are other sports much more heavily dominated by single countries. Table Tennis is basically all China. Basketball, all US. Archery, almost all South Korea.. etc.

 

The bottom line is that the Olympic games are incredibly expensive to host.

 

The 2012 London Olympics had a budget of £9.3 billion (~$14.5 billion)

 

In order for the hosts to break even, they have to sell tickets.

 

They probably quite simply looked at how many people bought tickets for wrestling, and decided it was an unacceptable expense.

 

Personally, I think they should seriously consider axing canoe slalom instead. Surely an extremely expensive venue to build (white water centre), and will see zero use after the games.

 

 

A company called ASCI built a white water course like that where I live, they built it in hopes that it would become the training home of the US Team. It did not, and the company went and filed bankruptcy. Our county government is now footing the bill. The poorest county in Maryland has its own circulating white water course... And just closed 6 elementary schools because they couldn't afford them.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit.

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

OK, I'm blowing smoke out of my ass, but when I call you out on your analogy you realize you are wrong so pretend you never said it? Who's blowing smoke up who's ass? 

Dressage exists because it's a rich person's sport and there are a ton of politics behind it's continuing. Have you see the IOC? One look at that white boy, rich club and you know why dressage will always be a sport. 

You say it's ratings, but that is a pile of hogwash. Many of the sports that are being kept no one watches. If you want to believe the party line from the IOC that it's about ratings, be my guest.

 

I didn't say shit about ratings. You're confusing my post with somebody else's. I said that it was politics with the IOC.

 

 

Since you're acknowledging the fact that IOC is in fact an old boys club dominated by a bunch of wealthy European elitists, I don't even know why you're bothering to defend your original assertion in this thread.

My bad. I merged your post with alpha Omega's. Anyhow, we're on the same side. Don't want to waste energy directed on each other that should be directed at the assholes that made this shite decision.

Bucephalus - "The board voted after reviewing a report by the IOC program commission report that analyzed 39 criteria, including television ratings, ticket sales, anti-doping policy and global participation and popularity."

39 criteria and the "respectable" journalist names 5 of them. More like 39 red herrings.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.