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What's really amazing is how many BJJ guys I've talked to that have bulging discs.  Either that, or herniated ones.

It's really shocking.  I talked to Marcos DaMatta and he has 3 bulging or herniated ones, and Ricardo Liborio who REALLY freaked me out when he said he has 7 of them.  He still rolls, but he's apparently in constant pain because of it.

I have 3 bulging and my facet joints are nearly gone. How long before you saw improvement with the Rolfing? Phone Post

2 weeks in I started feeling much looser and better.  I still haven't started rolling again, it's been months.  I'm going in for DRX9000 spinal decompression next week.  It's supposed to be very effective.  Lots of grapplers swear by it.  I'm taking this thing very seriously, and if I can't heal my back up it might be the end of Jiu Jitsu for me.

 

2/13/13 3:40 AM
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What's really amazing is how many BJJ guys I've talked to that have bulging discs.  Either that, or herniated ones.

It's really shocking.  I talked to Marcos DaMatta and he has 3 bulging or herniated ones, and Ricardo Liborio who REALLY freaked me out when he said he has 7 of them.  He still rolls, but he's apparently in constant pain because of it.

I have 3 bulging and my facet joints are nearly gone. How long before you saw improvement with the Rolfing? Phone Post

2 weeks in I started feeling much looser and better.  I still haven't started rolling again, it's been months.  I'm going in for DRX9000 spinal decompression next week.  It's supposed to be very effective.  Lots of grapplers swear by it.  I'm taking this thing very seriously, and if I can't heal my back up it might be the end of Jiu Jitsu for me.

 


Damn, that'd be horrible if you'd had to end your Jits. Hope you get well.

2/13/13 3:44 AM
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The Principal -  I went once. I've heard people swear by it. Seemed a little bit too pseudoscience-like for my taste, but I would have had to stick it out a bit more to be sure. Phone Post

Yes, you would have to have actually done it more than once to give it a fair assessment.

Most people who talk about "pseudoscience" have pseudo-experience with what they mock and criticize
2/13/13 8:21 AM
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What's really amazing is how many BJJ guys I've talked to that have bulging discs.  Either that, or herniated ones.

It's really shocking.  I talked to Marcos DaMatta and he has 3 bulging or herniated ones, and Ricardo Liborio who REALLY freaked me out when he said he has 7 of them.  He still rolls, but he's apparently in constant pain because of it.

I have 3 bulging and my facet joints are nearly gone. How long before you saw improvement with the Rolfing? Phone Post

2 weeks in I started feeling much looser and better.  I still haven't started rolling again, it's been months.  I'm going in for DRX9000 spinal decompression next week.  It's supposed to be very effective.  Lots of grapplers swear by it.  I'm taking this thing very seriously, and if I can't heal my back up it might be the end of Jiu Jitsu for me.

 


Good call on the spinal decompression.  I had that done for 2 bulging discs pushing into my sciatic nerve.  It will take a week or so to feel the decompression helping but after 3 weeks I felt a million times better

2/13/13 8:30 AM
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philipee32 - A Ha joe rogan is into rolfing too. That stuff is old already 70's. A good massage therapist aka me, will rape a rolfer any day of the week. Rolfing is like cross between massage therapy and chiropractic theroy except rolfing believes the whole body is stacked nd needs to aligned instead of just the spine and its really deep massage therapy. I think alota rolfers just get lucky and happen to realease the muscle cuz they hit everything, a lot of their work is based on stuff that isn't even possible, like manipulating the spine.

My experience of Rolfing and your explanation are 2 different things.

And no, no massage therapist has ever done to/for me what a trained Rolfer has done. I have had hundreds of massages.

My experience of Rolfing was focused more on Myofacial Release, less on "stacking"
2/13/13 8:39 AM
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2/13/13 8:54 AM
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I have a friend who has had bulging disk issues from years of farm work. She now is  on heavy meds for the pain. I  wonder how I can locate someone who can do this in Montreal. Where can I get credible info or whi can I talk to?

2/13/13 9:06 AM
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2/13/13 9:12 AM
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What's really amazing is how many BJJ guys I've talked to that have bulging discs.  Either that, or herniated ones.

It's really shocking.  I talked to Marcos DaMatta and he has 3 bulging or herniated ones, and Ricardo Liborio who REALLY freaked me out when he said he has 7 of them.  He still rolls, but he's apparently in constant pain because of it.

I have 3 bulging and my facet joints are nearly gone. How long before you saw improvement with the Rolfing? Phone Post

2 weeks in I started feeling much looser and better.  I still haven't started rolling again, it's been months.  I'm going in for DRX9000 spinal decompression next week.  It's supposed to be very effective.  Lots of grapplers swear by it.  I'm taking this thing very seriously, and if I can't heal my back up it might be the end of Jiu Jitsu for me.

 


give rener a call,his back was thought to be beyond repair.he ended up getting surgery and seems to be 100%

2/13/13 9:28 AM
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Letibleu -

I have a friend who has had bulging disk issues from years of farm work. She now is  on heavy meds for the pain. I  wonder how I can locate someone who can do this in Montreal. Where can I get credible info or whi can I talk to?

http://www.rolfingcanada.org/en/find_a_rolfer.html Phone Post
2/13/13 9:54 AM
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Thanks. Work for shoulders?
2/13/13 10:02 AM
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Thanks Joe. After my neck surgery in 2001, my middle/low back has killed me daily ever since. I presently have 2 bulging discs in my low back. (sciatic pain now) I've tried so many things, you begin to lose hope. I appreciate this. so, thank you for sharing. I hope i can find Rolfing here where i live,(surrounded by cornfields.)
2/13/13 10:05 AM
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by the way, i've always wondered why so many jiujitsu /grapplers have bad backs? it seems so commmon. I know one thing..it sure sucks!
2/13/13 10:24 AM
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Jason Reinhardt - Thanks Joe. After my neck surgery in 2001, my middle/low back has killed me daily ever since. I presently have 2 bulging discs in my low back. (sciatic pain now) I've tried so many things, you begin to lose hope. I appreciate this. so, thank you for sharing. I hope i can find Rolfing here where i live,(surrounded by cornfields.)
I'm in Iowa thinking the same thing, I see a potential for a Rolfing business here. Phone Post
2/13/13 10:29 AM
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Muzalin. I'm in frikin' Decatur, Illinois! It's very true, don't we seem to be the last to get anything? I will drive to try it.
2/13/13 11:21 AM
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Jason Reinhardt - Muzalin. I'm in frikin' Decatur, Illinois! It's very true, don't we seem to be the last to get anything? I will drive to try it.
Yeah you could probably find something in Chicago or north, I may have to try Minneapolis Phone Post
2/13/13 11:32 AM
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I have a friend who has had bulging disk issues from years of farm work. She now is  on heavy meds for the pain. I  wonder how I can locate someone who can do this in Montreal. Where can I get credible info or whi can I talk to?


There is a site of Rolfing practitioners

2/13/13 11:32 AM
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http://www.rolf.org/about

2/13/13 11:53 AM
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http://www.rolf.org/about

Cool thanks for the link Phone Post
2/13/13 1:30 PM
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I spoke with a guy Doctor who is thought to be one of the highest authorities on spine surgery and is a Brown Belt in BJJ to boot about bjj and back problems.

He said that in his opinion one of the major problems causing so many back issues in bjj people is that the sport is very "front concentrate." I asked him to define that and he said that if you take a long look at bjj you will notice that for the most part the front of the body is always closing and contracting. Over time the front of the body gets very short and the back of the body gets overly stretched out or "hyperflexible." That compounded with the fact that many bjj players seem to find a need to do EXTRA crunches and sit ups, in some instances heavyely included in warmups only makes things much much worse.

If you read McGills books such as "Ultimate Back Strength and performance" this will make very much sense. If you think of the back as a wire that only has a certain number of flexeion repetitions in it before it breaks you can see how BJJ will break your back quicker than other sports.

2/13/13 3:54 PM
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BJJER - I spoke with a guy Doctor who is thought to be one of the highest authorities on spine surgery and is a Brown Belt in BJJ to boot about bjj and back problems.

He said that in his opinion one of the major problems causing so many back issues in bjj people is that the sport is very "front concentrate." I asked him to define that and he said that if you take a long look at bjj you will notice that for the most part the front of the body is always closing and contracting. Over time the front of the body gets very short and the back of the body gets overly stretched out or "hyperflexible." That compounded with the fact that many bjj players seem to find a need to do EXTRA crunches and sit ups, in some instances heavyely included in warmups only makes things much much worse.

If you read McGills books such as "Ultimate Back Strength and performance" this will make very much sense. If you think of the back as a wire that only has a certain number of flexeion repetitions in it before it breaks you can see how BJJ will break your back quicker than other sports.

Apparently flexion movements of the spine under a heavy load causes immense pressure on the discs, causing them to 'bulge' over time.

If you think of the amount of times you've been stacked into a flexed spine position with someone else's weight pressing down, it's little wonder this issue is so prevalent in the jiujitsu community.

Extension work seemed to help me more than anything else. Still debate whether it's worth training once again. Phone Post
2/14/13 2:47 PM
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thanks for all the good advice
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Letibleu -

I have a friend who has had bulging disk issues from years of farm work. She now is  on heavy meds for the pain. I  wonder how I can locate someone who can do this in Montreal. Where can I get credible info or whi can I talk to?

http://www.rolfingcanada.org/en/find_a_rolfer.html Phone Post

thank you!!!!! (I had actually attempted google and came up with euro databases only)

2/14/13 3:22 PM
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Jason Reinhardt - by the way, i've always wondered why so many jiujitsu /grapplers have bad backs? it seems so commmon. I know one thing..it sure sucks!

Yeah.. I wonder why so many tennis players have bad elbows and basketball players have bad knees and typists have bad wrists.. It's so... confusing. lol
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What's really amazing is how many BJJ guys I've talked to that have bulging discs.  Either that, or herniated ones.

It's really shocking.  I talked to Marcos DaMatta and he has 3 bulging or herniated ones, and Ricardo Liborio who REALLY freaked me out when he said he has 7 of them.  He still rolls, but he's apparently in constant pain because of it.

I have 3 bulging and my facet joints are nearly gone. How long before you saw improvement with the Rolfing? Phone Post

2 weeks in I started feeling much looser and better.  I still haven't started rolling again, it's been months.  I'm going in for DRX9000 spinal decompression next week.  It's supposed to be very effective.  Lots of grapplers swear by it.  I'm taking this thing very seriously, and if I can't heal my back up it might be the end of Jiu Jitsu for me.

 

That's rough man, hope you heal up soon.

Making an apt with a local Rolfer tmr. Phone Post

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