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2/14/13 4:08 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Freddie Gavaria 14 Edited: 02/14/13 4:52 PM Member Since: 4/26/11 Posts: 144	http://www.mmamania.com/2013/2/14/3989270/ufc-157-lyoto-machida-dan-henderson-bas-rutten-mma Kind of surprising coming from Bas. If Machida is one dimensional then what exactly is Hendo? Also, despite what he says, rushing Lyoto is FAR from a good idea.

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ABE FROMAN 4 Member Since: 12/15/02 Posts: 70318	MMA is becoming like rap beef, everybody is always talking shit in hopes of somebody else paying attention. You have ignored this user.

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Death Beast Member Since: 11/17/11 Posts: 710	Does he have a personal problem with Machida? That's the only reason I can think of that he would say something so ignorant. You have ignored this user.

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hubris Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 105802	lol is he still pissed off at Sensei Segal? You have ignored this user.

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Fitzsimmons Shift 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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People sleep on Hendo's stand-up as being somehow crude, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with having the fundamentals of a hard right hand blow down pat. (His left hook is devastating too, of course, although his preferred stance doesn't often allow him to make use of it.)

For the rest, there's a strong clinch, above average freestyle wrestling and an under-rated ground game. (Shogun's a BJJ black belt -- putting him in a crucifix was no mean feat.)

It's not fair to say Dan is "one-dimensional" just because he's good at knocking people down with his power hand and does it often.

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Zed Wayne Zed 87 Member Since: 10/20/11 Posts: 1301	yeah..... Hmmmm.....how would Machida vs Bas go in a striking match, both in their primes? You have ignored this user.

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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 17839	Machida has many more weapons than Dan Henderson has. You have ignored this user.

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DoomFarmer 44 Member Since: 5/12/10 Posts: 9624	So how many does Dan have? You have ignored this user.

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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA

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Fitzsimmons Shift - People sleep on Hendo's stand-up as being somehow crude, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with having the fundamentals of a hard right hand blow down pat. (His left hook is devastating too, of course, although his preferred stance doesn't often allow him to make use of it.0

For the rest, there's a strong clinch, above average freestyle wrestling and an under-rated ground game. (Shogun's a BJJ black belt -- putting him in a crucifix was no mean feat.)

It's not fair to say Dan's "one-dimensional" just because he's good at knocking people down with his power hand and does it often.

He is all hands, and Machida has done devastating things with all 8 points.

There is no question that Machida has more tools to win the fight.

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DRevan 4 Member Since: 9/13/11 Posts: 2285	Yeah...except for when hes standing..or breathing. You have ignored this user.

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drewb75 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1566	Is Bas suffering from Post Concussive Syndrome? You have ignored this user.

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rnunz 71 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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"Dan is the man's man. Like any guy on the planet, they love Dan because he's got a lot of heart and he always comes to fight. I always get emotional because he's really that guy. That's why I want to see him win and I think he has that chance because he knows when he lands that 'H-bomb,' it's goodnight. I'm gonna get a lot of heat now. Machida doesn't have a lot of weapons. Whatever he does, he does really well. He's got great distance, great accuracy, but his attack is always the same. It's a cross, or a kick and a cross. When you push him, he always moves to the same side. So, if Dan would look at that and just bullrush him, he could throw a big hand there and that could stop him."

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Chaelismyhero Member Since: 12/30/12 Posts: 794	Zed Wayne Zed - yeah..... Hmmmm.....how would Machida vs Bas go in a striking match, both in their primes? Bas by ko You have ignored this user.

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12SixElbow 515 Member Since: 4/15/09 Posts: 16265	Odd statement... Machida doesn't have a lot of weapons. Whatever he does, he does really well. He's got great distance, great accuracy, but his attack is always the same. It's a cross, or a kick and a cross. When you push him, he always moves to the same side. IMO Machida has a wayyy bigger toolbox for this fight than Henderson does You have ignored this user.

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triso 16 Member Since: 1/9/06 Posts: 2814	Tough fight style wise for Dan and I completely disagree with Bas. You have ignored this user.

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RileyPust 64 Member Since: 6/4/11 Posts: 1180	I think Bas is correct, that is Dan's best chance of winning. But he better do it early before Lyoto establishes his range. You have ignored this user.

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Ruin Member Since: 10/24/12 Posts: 59	Machida has had an over reliance on the straight left, but his strikings look more varied. Every fighter will have their go-to techniques You have ignored this user.

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ufc98newb 36 Member Since: 9/26/10 Posts: 2068	Hendo will never catch Machida with a rush. the difference in quickness between those two is night and day. Dan's only chance is to bait Machida into doing something and hit him with the right when he doesn't see it coming You have ignored this user.

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ranier wolfcastle 291 Member Since: 11/28/03 Posts: 59937	bas does know his stuff but machgida has many weapons You have ignored this user.

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YVES JOCKSTRAP 107 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 23020	Strange comment You have ignored this user.

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voorhees Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 15524	I think Machida prob has MORE weapons than anyone else at 205. You have ignored this user.

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ajl416az Member Since: 4/11/07 Posts: 4699	machida consistently: -doesn't throw hooks -only jumps in and out because he refuses to stay in the pocket so yes, even though he moves well and is quite good, he does limit himself in terms of what he throws and how he throws You have ignored this user.

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epic hero Member Since: 5/29/12 Posts: 1535	I see what Bas is saying, he sometimes has an over reliance on certain techniques and always fights the same way, but every fighter has certain moves that they favor over others. Machida has much more tools then Dan does You have ignored this user.

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athsportsnutrition 26 Member Since: 8/17/12 Posts: 150 ATHLETE SPORTS NUTRITION, Owner	ranier wolfcastle - bas does know his stuff but machgida has many weapons Bad ass highlight. You have ignored this user.

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caseharts 335 Member Since: 7/18/11 Posts: 15531	Chaelismyhero - Zed Wayne Zed - yeah..... Hmmmm.....how would Machida vs Bas go in a striking match, both in their primes? Bas by ko Lol ok. You have ignored this user.

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