UnderGround Forum >> WarMachine accusing Lloyd Irvin of rape
| 2/20/13 12:56 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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Rival School -I understand that you are 50% trolling, but it is not accurate to say that you believe in the justice system if you do not admit that he was present at a horrible rape and wished to participate.Dodge135 -If so that's fucked up! But I can not go off of that. I believe in the justice system and he was not found guilty. Therefor I can't call him a rapist.Rival School -Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break.
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| 2/20/13 12:59 PM | |
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thedirtyburger
Member Since: 8/22/12 Posts: 108 |
Rival School -What if someone forced your daughter to fuck, and an able bodied limp dick man stood there and watched and did nothing. And then people defend this man....Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break.
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| 2/20/13 1:34 PM | |
UGCTT_Fillthy
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Edited: 02/20/13 1:34 PM Member Since: 1/8/09 Posts: 2182 |
Rival School -UGCTT_Fillthy -You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.
you don't have a very good understanding of slander/libel laws.
There are several other criteria that must be met before he can sue, one of which being that voicing an opinion is not slanderous. troll troll troll your boat elsewhere. |
| 2/20/13 1:59 PM | |
Jason Reinhardt
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Member Since: 3/21/02 Posts: 7223 |
Hey everybody, I was in absolutely no way, shape or form accepting what Lloyd did in his past. The things i've read are just horrible. To be quite honest, if someone did that to my daughter, i would be signing in on the underground from the prison library. |
| 2/20/13 2:05 PM | |
Jason Reinhardt
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Member Since: 3/21/02 Posts: 7224 |
looking back, when the story first hit, i irresponsibly did not do my homework. I always try to look for the good in people. You guys are right, if Lloyd did, or was involved in a gang rape, it's irrelevant the good he's done, because doing or being involved in something so horrific will never be erased by any amount of good you do. At 20 yrs old, i was a wild party kid, but never would i even have thought about being around a gang rape case scenerio. I would have tried to STOP IT, and then gone straight to the police. Period! |
| 2/20/13 2:05 PM | |
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Rival School
Member Since: 1/11/11 Posts: 3696 |
2JupitersTooMany -Correct and yes I obviously think him even being there is utterly disturbing and gross. That was never my point... Just saying he's not a rapist.Rival School -I understand that you are 50% trolling, but it is not accurate to say that you believe in the justice system if you do not admit that he was present at a horrible rape and wished to participate.Dodge135 -If so that's fucked up! But I can not go off of that. I believe in the justice system and he was not found guilty. Therefor I can't call him a rapist.Rival School -Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break.
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| 2/20/13 2:08 PM | |
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Rival School
Member Since: 1/11/11 Posts: 3697 |
thedirtyburger -I'd say whoever raped my daughter is going to die.Rival School -What if someone forced your daughter to fuck, and an able bodied limp dick man stood there and watched and did nothing. And then people defend this man....Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break. If the man said that the limp dick guy was a rapist and also deserved to die I'd say no that sick freak only watched, he's not a rapist, he's sick but not a rapist.
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| 2/20/13 2:08 PM | |
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Rival School
Member Since: 1/11/11 Posts: 3698 |
UGCTT_Fillthy -Well I'm not a lawyer!Rival School -UGCTT_Fillthy -You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.
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| 2/20/13 2:19 PM | |
disbeliever
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Edited: 02/20/13 2:35 PM Member Since: 9/27/03 Posts: 21766 Mixed Martial Arts LLC, Moderator |
Rival School -UGCTT_Fillthy - By your own admission you have no idea about the laws you are accusing other people of breaking. And then you threaten to screen shot and send to LI, in hopes of him being sued? Yea... might want to look at a different posting s tyle |
| 2/20/13 3:17 PM | |
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celtninja
Member Since: 7/7/12 Posts: 1 |
Kevin wanted me to post this. I Hope I don't get banned I'm using his computer. http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/premiermmatraining/BETA-Lloyd02_zpsc7ee253c.png http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/premiermmatraining/BETA-Lloyd03_zpse351afca.png Blue name |
| 2/20/13 3:31 PM | |
UGCTT_Fillthy
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Member Since: 1/8/09 Posts: 2183 |
for celtninja. |
| 2/20/13 3:31 PM | |
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Rival School
Member Since: 1/11/11 Posts: 3700 |
disbeliever -I'm not sure of all of the steps but I know the slander that causes monitory loss is one. This guy leaving makes Lloyd lose money and if he left because you called him a rapist when he is not! You should be sued.Rival School -UGCTT_Fillthy - Everyone who falsely accused Lloyd of anything I've taken pictures so he can compile them later if new be. He was found not guilty let it go.
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| 2/20/13 3:39 PM | |
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celtninja
Member Since: 7/7/12 Posts: 4 |
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/dcnightlife07/NAKAPAN-LLOYD01-1.png http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/dcnightlife07/NAKAPAN-LLOYD02-1.png http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/dcnightlife07/NAKAPAN-LLOYD03-1.png http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/dcnightlife07/MELANIE-LLOYD-1.png |
| 2/20/13 3:47 PM | |
Bentleysuper8
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Member Since: 4/9/05 Posts: 2176 |
Celtninja, I don't get it. What's up with the Facebook screen caps? |
| 2/20/13 4:02 PM | |
UGCTT_Fillthy
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Member Since: 1/8/09 Posts: 2185 |
for celtninja |
| 2/20/13 4:03 PM | |
thembones
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Member Since: 10/27/06 Posts: 1050 |
Rival School -disbeliever -I'm not sure of all of the steps but I know the slander that causes monitory loss is one. This guy leaving makes Lloyd lose money and if he left because you called him a rapist when he is not! You should be sued.Rival School -UGCTT_Fillthy - You're obviously trolling at this point, but just for the record, the burden of proof in a civil case is different than the burden of proof in a criminal case. You can be found "not guilty" of criminal charges due to reasonable doubt, and still liable on a balance of probabilities. Why do you think O.J. Simpson has a wrongful-death judgment against him? |
| 2/20/13 4:07 PM | |
UGCTT_Fillthy
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Edited: 02/20/13 4:08 PM Member Since: 1/8/09 Posts: 2186 |
Rival School -
Let me google 'slander' for you.
your trolling is pathetic. STFU, adults are conversing. |
| 2/20/13 5:32 PM | |
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celtninja
Edited: 02/20/13 5:32 PM Member Since: 7/7/12 Posts: 13 |
Kevin Chhay is the most legit guy I've ever met. |
| 2/20/13 6:29 PM | |
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Rival School
Member Since: 1/11/11 Posts: 3707 |
celtninja - Kevin Chhay is the most legit guy I've ever met.It's always the big mouths who are fake. Kevin has 4 names on this board and his green name was frozen for using them under the same IP. Watch who you cheer for kids. Kevin is a bum and a bully
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| 2/21/13 4:41 PM | |
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celtninja
Member Since: 7/7/12 Posts: 18 |
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/dcnightlife07/NAKAPAN-KEVIN.png http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/19/4007012/beta-academy-owner-explains-ending-relationship-with-lloyd-irvin |
| 2/28/13 7:12 PM | |
GayGuardMooseSaucy
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Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 10228 |
So Keenan has left and rumor mill is JT will be leaving soon. Interesting turn of events
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| 2/28/13 9:11 PM | |
UGCTT_Fillthy
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Member Since: 1/8/09 Posts: 2248 |
From the FB of Keenan Cornelius - I think some of you could care less about where I go, or what I do, and I get that, but a lot of people, including professional publications, have asked why I’ve left TLI. I want to make it clear what my reasoning is so there’s no more speculation, or worse the wrong reasons assumed:
Obviously, the circumstances surrounding TLI having been public so I don’t need to clarify a subject that many of you already understand and have been saturated with. In the last 6 weeks, article and blogs have spun out of control, testimonies given, and arguments and explanations made; clearly there are many views - much of which contradict each other. |
| 2/28/13 9:33 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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Member Since: 5/14/06 Posts: 32726 |
This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me): N5Z 1 minute ago I know for certain some people know much more than me but are choosing to remain silent. Lloyd was pretty much responsible for tearing my old gym apart so fuck him I have no problem spreading gossip like an old widow. What I hear is it was found that Lloyd was coercing his top female students/employees(yes, some familiar names) into some wierd sexy time. Apparently it was Jordan Schultz who put him on blast when one of the females confided in him. Somehow, this is the part im missing, this leads to everyone in the fighter house leaving in the middle of the night like the gestapo was coming. Im talking guys getting woken up in the middle of the night by others and being like 'we got to get the fuck outta here!' type shit. This is what im hearing 2nd hand. Anyone with better knowledge please feel free to correct me.
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| 2/28/13 9:44 PM | |
Dodge135
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Member Since: 8/2/09 Posts: 648 |
2JupitersTooMany - This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me): A closet full of skeletons. |
| 2/28/13 10:08 PM | |
likatiga
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Member Since: 9/15/07 Posts: 2924 |
Dodge135 -2JupitersTooMany - This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me): seems like it's being busted open now too. I wish none of this were true but if it is, it makes me hope this guy burns down all the way to the ground. |
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