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2/25/13 1:03 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.

2/25/13 1:21 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.

LOL

Does the name Anderson Silva ring any bells? Phone Post

10/14/06 UFC 64 Franklin v. Silva 300,000
02/03/07 UFC 67 Silva v. Lutter 400,000
03/01/08 UFC 82 Silva v. Henderson 325,000
10/25/08 UFC 90 Silva v. Cote 300,000
04/10/2010 UFC 112 Silva vs. Maia 500,000
08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
02/05/2011 UFC 126 Silva vs. Belfort 725,000
08/27/2011 UFC 134 Silva vs. Okami 335,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000
10/13/2012 UFC 153 Silva vs. Bonnar 410,000


Sonnen was 2 of Silva's top 3 PPV's. Silva himself is an incredible fighter but not a correspondingly incredible draw
2/25/13 1:25 PM
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I won't be surprised if the Jones fight ends up being Sonnen's last. It's going to be brutal.
2/25/13 1:56 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.


check out ufc 136 where Sonnen was co-main event. 225k. one of the worst selling ppv's of the past 5 years. lol

2/25/13 1:59 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.


check out ufc 136 where Sonnen was co-main event. 225k. one of the worst selling ppv's of the past 5 years. lol


the headliner was edgar maynard III...
2/25/13 2:04 PM
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Get on his level.

 

The one and only Chael P. Sonnen is a mastermind of everything.

 

If Mr. Sonnen says it, it is what it is.

 

2/25/13 2:12 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.


check out ufc 136 where Sonnen was co-main event. 225k. one of the worst selling ppv's of the past 5 years. lol


the headliner was edgar maynard III...

Aldo Florian were also on it. im pretty sure people are allowed to buy a card for fights that are not the main event. the point is Chael sonnen doesn't necessarily get sales if the circumstances aren't just right for him.

You can't seriously look at Machida's numbers and make a valid point that he doesn't sell. Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard don't sell. Matt Hamill and Thiago Silva couldn't sell main events against guys who typically pull good numbers. Dan Henderson doesn't sell well as a headliner. Lyoto Machida is none of those guys.

2/25/13 2:15 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.


check out ufc 136 where Sonnen was co-main event. 225k. one of the worst selling ppv's of the past 5 years. lol


the headliner was edgar maynard III...

Yup not a huge seller but it showed that Chael essentially brought in no views


LOL most fans don't even know who's fighting on a card beyond the headliner, and that's only cause they saw it when they ordered the PPV
2/25/13 2:20 PM
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amazed at chael's ability to flip that switch.
2/25/13 2:59 PM
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machida has no problems selling ppv's. look up his sales if you want. they are fine. chael has never sold anything outside of a silva fight, and of course there will be big buys for an undeserved title fight against Jones. Outside of that, he hasn't sold shit. LOok at Machida's last 5 or 6 ppvs. all around 500,000+ Machida's drawing power is not a problem, it is a myth.  In fact, Machida drew better against shogun than jones, and nearly the same against rampage.  Look at Machida headlined cards here. not too bad, if you ask me:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

ufc 84 machida, ortiz 480k

ufc 98 machida evans 635k

ufc 104 machida shogun 500k

ufc 113 machida shogun2 520k

ufc 123 machida rampage 500k     ufc 140 machida jones 480k


08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000

Machida's best day barely beat's sonnen's worst.

He only got that bc of evans. Phone Post

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