the two witnesses in revelation 11

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Pretjah 136 Member Since: 4/23/02 Posts: 48649	so a question for you all do you believe these witnesses will be actual people? i've heard anythign from elijah and enoch to people of that time period or do you believe it's purely symbolic and the two witnesses refer to the old test and new test? or symbolic and it refers to judaism and christianity?

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thedogofdogs 460 Member Since: 12/15/11 Posts: 51	It refers to two people. You have ignored this user.

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Benedictus Member Since: 11/17/09 Posts: 197	Or two nations? I haven't read too much from it. I have an EO Study bible I glean from. I'll have to check their commentary on it. You have ignored this user.

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Pretjah 136 Member Since: 4/23/02 Posts: 48713	i'm currently torn between it being enoch and elijiah or judaism and christianity. i lean towards it being hte religions right now because i can't see the world rejoicing over the death of two men. however i can see a majority of muslims(not all) and 99.9% of atheists being super happy if they believed judaism and christianity were dead. You have ignored this user.

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TheHawker Member Since: 7/4/05 Posts: 33533	You are presupposing a future literal fulfillment of the vision of Revelation. Perhaps its not a prediction of future events? You have ignored this user.

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Pretjah 136 Member Since: 4/23/02 Posts: 48715	well unless the beast (the antichrist) hasn't come yet (which he hasn't) then it is a future prophecy. You have ignored this user.

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yusul 21 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 14190	i think they are two people. saying 2 nations are prophesying for 3 years wearing sacks is pretty strange. You have ignored this user.

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yusul 21 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 14199	incorrect, it isn't satan, i believe it's the beast or the antichrist. You have ignored this user.

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Can the people that follow the false Christ be blamed ? If the AC comes as Christ, performing superhuman miracles and such, w/ a positive loving message (even if lies), will those duped by him be held accountable ? How could someone who has not grown up in the word or spent years learning it really be able to discern the AC from the true Christ based on what they know (or don't know) ?? Will they burn ? have a 2nd chance at salvation ?

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DyingBreed 10 Member Since: 1/18/03 Posts: 13999	"fire of heaven" by bill myers is a great fictional book on this subject btw. It is part of a trilogy, but u can read it by itself You have ignored this user.

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phydeau 74 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 11282	Benedictus - Or two nations? I haven't read too much from it. I have an EO Study bible I glean from. I'll have to check their commentary on it. what is the EO Study Bible? You have ignored this user.

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phydeau 74 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 11283	Pretjah - so a question for you all do you believe these witnesses will be actual people? i've heard anythign from elijah and enoch to people of that time period or do you believe it's purely symbolic and the two witnesses refer to the old test and new test? or symbolic and it refers to judaism and christianity? BTW, Moses & Elijah IMO. You have ignored this user.

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phydeau 74 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 11284	TheHawker - You are presupposing a future literal fulfillment of the vision of Revelation. Perhaps its not a prediction of future events? Yes, something that I only recently learned is a minoraty view among protestants. You have ignored this user.

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Ridgeback Member Since: 7/3/07 Posts: 29728	phydeau - Benedictus - Or two nations? I haven't read too much from it. I have an EO Study bible I glean from. I'll have to check their commentary on it. what is the EO Study Bible? My guess is Eastern Orthodox. Or at least I do have an actual Eastern Orthodox study bible. You have ignored this user.

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Ridgeback Edited: 09/03/12 3:14 PM Member Since: 7/3/07 Posts: 29729	You have ignored this user.

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YoungGunABKJ 47 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 4573	again thier is more than one antichrist[just not the antichrist] You have ignored this user.

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thedogofdogs 460 Member Since: 12/15/11 Posts: 1572	symbolic...two of the major religions. You have ignored this user.

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TeaBaggedbyMagicUndies 164 Member Since: 11/11/08 Posts: 829	Hm. I think two people.. i guess we'll find out sometime. You have ignored this user.

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A.W.Ashford 164 Member Since: 11/11/08 Posts: 1262	what would sakuraba do - In rev it says you "burn for ever and ever..." . At first glance sounds self explanitory. Upon closer inspection you realize: . . 1. "forever" & "for [space] ever" arent the same, even in english. In greek, it means "for a time". Crazy, huh? WUT? You have ignored this user.

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A.W.Ashford 164 Member Since: 11/11/08 Posts: 1313	http://carm.org/look-phrase-forever-and-ever You have ignored this user.

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