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SoundGround >> Bass God - Dave Holland
| 11/16/12 9:42 PM | |
Ali
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Edited: 11/16/12 9:42 PM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9194 |
Thanks jman for the phrase "bass god" Applied to Michael Manring -- hell yeah. I've got a handful of others in mind, too... so wanted to start here. "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is a tune written by Charles Mingus (bass God of Gods), in memoriam for saxophonist Lester Young. It's been done over and over again, sometimes by some great gutarists (Jeff Beck did a killer version, for one). But here's the first solo bass version I've heard. And from a living master... the great, great Dave Holland: |
| 11/19/12 9:13 AM | |
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jman
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13279 |
Great bass player, but that video was a bit...mmm boring to me. Then again I have musical ADD so take my opinion and throw it out the window. I listened to the other Manring CD...wow talk about New Age. Just glad he came out with "Thonk" that thing is gold. |
| 11/19/12 9:26 PM | |
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Ali
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Edited: 11/19/12 9:38 PM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9197 |
Yeah... Manring's got a lot of New Age. (At least McGill/Manring/Stevens is rockin'... the tunes aren't memorable particularly but they do burn!) Your typical Holland record is 10x better than your typical Manring record (! -- In a way I mean it, and in a way I don't. They're not remotely comparable. But Holland's various bands have done some of the best of modern mainstream jazz records, at least -- granted, you have to like that sort of thing). And sorry Pork-pie Hat bored you. I think it's riveting. And talk about tone.... even though it's cheating to use such a good bass (!). De gustibus... Try this one. A Coltrane cover, a bit more uptempo a piece, "Mr PC" (which was a a tribute to bassist Paul Chambers). Audio only from his solo bass record, One's All. |
| 11/20/12 12:04 AM | |
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jman
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Wow that was great, liked that one a lot thanks! |
| 11/20/12 1:22 AM | |
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Ali
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Edited: 11/20/12 1:33 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9200 |
Cool! Glad you dug that. It's actually probably my favorite thing on the solo record. That kills me. I saw Holland at UCLA 6 or 7 years ago, with a big band. It was really something special. I love the ECM records he did around the time of "Prime Directive" - mostly quintet records. Here's the same tune, Mr. PC, played live at the same show as the prior vid. I think (in both cases actually) I prefer what's on the album, but it's cool to get video of him playing it, too, so I repeat. And I'm re-considering the next "bass god" thread I was considering before... I fear it might bore anyone but the most committed musical weirdos. Hmmm. I'll think about it. |
| 11/20/12 7:49 AM | |
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jman
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Wow that one was even better than the album IMO. Crazy to be onstage with just 4 strings and completely take over...just incredible. Feel free to go crazy and post whatever. I see the Soundground as this awesome Whiteboard where we can post and create our own mini-webpages sharing some incredible music. Keep it up man, seriously!!! Keep posting stuff, I probably won't see eye to eye on everything, but I certainly look forward to all of the stuff you throw out there. |
| 11/20/12 10:26 AM | |
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Ali
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Edited: 11/20/12 10:40 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9202 |
Thanks Jimmy -- of course we won't see eye to eye on everything. If we did we'd know all the same music already, I bet! And yeah, I'll impose weird chit on people on occasion... it's just a question of how to, or whether to, ease into it sometimes. When I used to do a jazz show (at a university radio station, I mean) I'd often find that I could play a sort of historical development of something and get people listening to the end. And if I started at the end, I'd get irate callers... "what is this chit???" Holland came up playing with Miles Davis. He's a venerable old master at this point. Yeah, takes over a stage by himself. I liked the trio he was in with John Abercrombie and Jack DeJohnette (the "Gateway Trio"). And for the last long while, he's been a really great, great bandleader as well. Here he is with a killer quintet (after a long solo intro!) The drummer, Billy Kilson, was one of the most impressive I'd ever seen, when I got to the UCLA show. But the whole band is pretty ridiculous. And the tune is a very interesting mix of "old and new" (to borrow a cliche). I'm guessing, because of the long trombone "solo", that this is a Robin Eubanks tune. The bass and drums behind that solo are freaking great. |
| 11/21/12 12:39 PM | |
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hugomma
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Member Since: 4/5/10 Posts: 2566 |
Looking forward to checking out Holland, particularly "Mr. PC". Always loved that tune. |
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