UnderGround Forum >> How long will Overeem last at Cains pace?
| 12/31/12 2:04 PM | |
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irishrottie
Member Since: 3/8/09 Posts: 17082 |
JDS and Cain showed very impressive cardio for hws. I cant see Overeem lasting for than 2 rounds at that pace before shutting down. |
| 12/31/12 2:06 PM | |
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orcus
Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 75154 |
How long will Cain be able to keep up such a pace if he's trying to take down someone much larger and stronger than JDS? Who will be crushing him with knees when Cain clinches? It's an interesting fight. Of course first Overeem has to beat Bigfoot. |
| 12/31/12 2:07 PM | |
morse
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Member Since: 11/2/09 Posts: 827 |
Very intresting matchup. Cain can eat a lot of knees diving for takedown or take Overeem down and gas him out inside 3 minutes. |
| 12/31/12 2:08 PM | |
morse
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damn you orcus :) |
| 12/31/12 2:10 PM | |
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French Fries Malone
Member Since: 9/26/08 Posts: 4469 |
He doesn't get past Bigfoot which makes this thread funny
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| 12/31/12 2:19 PM | |
Toquinho
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Overeems last 10 fights ended in round 1 and feebin tko round 2 (except for the buttscoot scandal) Overeem probably KOs cain in round 1 by knees followed by punches. If not then it gets interesting to see his ground skills and gas tank Lol @ anyone taking bigfoot silva serious as a threat
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| 12/31/12 2:20 PM | |
epwar
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Overeem was dead tired at the beginning of the second round of his rematch with Werdum. So he gets finished in the second. |
| 12/31/12 2:21 PM | |
epwar
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Toquinho - Overeems last 10 fights ended in round 1 and feebin tko round 2 (except for the buttscoot scandal) Everyone said that about Bigfoot before his Fedor fight...
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| 12/31/12 2:21 PM | |
Toquinho
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Also if cain attacks overeem like he did to jds he is in trouble as this would mean he end up in the clinch and eats knees or eats power shots as reem does not throw jabs. Cain is intelligent and will prob use other strategy, interesting fight.
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| 12/31/12 2:51 PM | |
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MMALOGIC
Member Since: 8/17/08 Posts: 7802 |
overeem has 3 rounds of gas... physioligically that much muscle cannot likely last more than 2 rounds without gassing. You can watch the werdum fight and get an idea of what's gonna happen. Cain is gonna destroy him. Everyone is saying Overeem is devastating in the clinch... sure against K-1 fighters who have no grappling experience... Against werdum how devestating was overeem in the clinch? Cain is gonna destroy overeem. JDS was a much better fight for the reem and still JDS would have beat him. |
| 12/31/12 2:54 PM | |
kanotoa
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Very interesting fight. I think Overeem will study the last fight and come up with a game plan: Circling and not moving backwards, keeping his damn hands up, staying off the cage. I do think that cardio will be a serious factor if Overeem doesn't do major damage in the first. |
| 12/31/12 2:59 PM | |
caseharts
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Member Since: 7/18/11 Posts: 13803 |
Overeems take down defense is awesome. And he will have a huge strength advantage. Remember jds pushing off shots. Reem will be better at it. If it goes past 3 Cains probably winning but before that it's probably reem.
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| 12/31/12 3:49 PM | |
303
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I guess people forget that in order for Cain to take him down he is going to have to get close to Overeem. I put Overeems chances at landing some serious shots as high as Cain's getting inside on him. Underestimate Cain cannot stand and trade with Overeem like he did with JDS. It was JDS's hands that are dangerous, Overeem 8 different things to hit Cain with. |
| 12/31/12 3:51 PM | |
D241
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I didn't want to make a thread, so I'll just drop off this interesting tidbit here.
Cain Velasquez vs Alistair Overeem is the First Strikeforce HW Champion vs the Last Strikeforce HW Champion.
I just thought that was unique. |
| 12/31/12 3:53 PM | |
caseharts
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D241 -Vu this man
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| 12/31/12 4:16 PM | |
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GarlicSauce
Member Since: 9/13/12 Posts: 414 |
Cain shoots Overeem clinches Overeem nukes Cain with knees Fight ends |
| 12/31/12 4:18 PM | |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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3 minutes
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| 12/31/12 4:23 PM | |
Dawggy
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Toquinho - Overeems last 10 fights ended in round 1 and feebin tko round 2 (except for the buttscoot scandal)Same thing said about Bigfoot/fedor
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| 12/31/12 4:26 PM | |
Toquinho
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Fedor didnt adapt with mma the last yrs. Silva vs fedor 2005 would be like zuluzinho. Silva great tune up for Reem
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| 12/31/12 4:28 PM | |
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SinCityHustler
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 11434 |
At Cain's pace, he's exhausted after 1 round. By round 2 he's really sucking air and on the verge of being put out. The key for Overeem in this fight is to fight it at his pace, not Cain's. How he accomplishes this is by staying on the outside and picking off Cain when he comes in. Easier said than done, IMO. |
| 12/31/12 4:47 PM | |
Sprawl'n'Stall
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At LHW, Reem was superiorly gifted for 3 minutes then he started to gas. I don't see how his cardio can be better with all that additional muscle mass as a HW. But no doubt he can win in those first minutes! After that it's all Cain, no doubt. |
| 12/31/12 5:00 PM | |
DWray
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303 - I guess people forget that in order for Cain to take him down he is going to have to get close to Overeem. I put Overeems chances at landing some serious shots as high as Cain's getting inside on him. Underestimate Cain cannot stand and trade with Overeem like he did with JDS. It was JDS's hands that are dangerous, Overeem 8 different things to hit Cain with. While I don't disagree, if Cain hits Overeem with that same right hand that he hit JDS with, Overeem is done. JDS has an incredible chin, Overeem doesn't. |
| 12/31/12 5:00 PM | |
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orcus
Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 75156 |
"I don't see how his cardio can be better with all that additional muscle mass as a HW." The UG physiologists will tell you it's because he's no longer killing himself to make 205. |
| 12/31/12 5:06 PM | |
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TaeKwonBendoTopTeam623
Member Since: 7/18/12 Posts: 823 |
How long will Cain last when Reem knees him like he did Brock?
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| 12/31/12 5:12 PM | |
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Pink Impala
Member Since: 6/11/10 Posts: 110 |
Overeem will knock Cajn out in the first round
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