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1/26/13 5:23 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Drizzt7000 11 Member Since: 5/23/04 Posts: 1821	This article brings up an interesting point http://jitsmagazine.com/articles/entry/reasons-why-bjj-should-become-more-spectator-friendly

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1/26/13 5:43 PM

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shen 329 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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No way.

The path to ruin for martial arts is worrying about making them more "spectator friendly". WuShu, anyone,...?

You don't change the rules of a supposed "fighting art" to appeal visually to people who are never going to watch it anyway.

TKD and Judo have both bent over backwards to be more "visually appealing" to the masses --and, some would argue, made themselves "lesser" as combative systems in the process. Both are FAR more interesting for the average person to watch than BJJ, and still basically nobody watches either of them.

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HoldYerGround 3 Member Since: 10/10/08 Posts: 2916	BJJ is NOT a spectator sport. Some of us would like to keep it that way. You have ignored this user.

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checkuroil 116 Member Since: 2/28/03 Posts: 34829	Who cares if spectators like it You have ignored this user.

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Braxmax Member Since: 10/20/12 Posts: 39	Hmmmm. Make bjj interesting to watch?? Maybe add striking and get rid of the gi because that slows things down and makes it boring. Get some refs to stand the fight back up to the feet if fighters aren't "working" from the ground... I bet a shit ton of people would watch that kind of bjj. You have ignored this user.

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PayItForward 112 Member Since: 6/4/02 Posts: 14387	no. just no. You have ignored this user.

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ChipW 18 Member Since: 4/2/10 Posts: 1760	Two high level competitors of any grappling sport competing is usually pretty boring for the casual observer. Number 1 seed vs number 32? Now that's usually a beat down that's highlight reel worthy You have ignored this user.

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Baroquen Record 12 Member Since: 4/20/07 Posts: 17211	not possible and not necessary IMO You have ignored this user.

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GrahamJ 3 Member Since: 1/11/13 Posts: 109	checkuroil - Who cares if spectators like it You have ignored this user.

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puppet 11 Member Since: 8/11/12 Posts: 160	With fire. Or bacon. You have ignored this user.

1/26/13 10:13 PM

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shen -

No way.

The path to ruin for martial arts is worrying about making them more "spectator friendly". WuShu, anyone,...?

You don't change the rules of a supposed "fighting art" to appeal visually to people who are never going to watch it anyway.

TKD and Judo have both bent over backwards to be more "visually appealing" to the masses --and, some would argue, made themselves "lesser" as combative systems in the process. Both are FAR more interesting for the average person to watch than BJJ, and still basically nobody watches either of them.

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Karate suffered the same fate. Practicality thrown to the wind for visual appeal and mass marketing Phone Post

1/27/13 3:26 AM

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Sgt. Slaphead 14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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shen -

No way.

The path to ruin for martial arts is worrying about making them more "spectator friendly". WuShu, anyone,...?

You don't change the rules of a supposed "fighting art" to appeal visually to people who are never going to watch it anyway.

TKD and Judo have both bent over backwards to be more "visually appealing" to the masses --and, some would argue, made themselves "lesser" as combative systems in the process. Both are FAR more interesting for the average person to watch than BJJ, and still basically nobody watches either of them.

watching sport jiujitsu definitely does not bring to mind a "fighting art"

If we made it like combat sambo match, then we'd see more "fighting art". Lumax Cup had gi tops, striking and grappling......IIRC Egan Inoue fought in it? Something almost like that

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JSho 82 Member Since: 9/19/03 Posts: 5587	They should do proper rankings and have seeds/seeded brackets at all comps, at least the first couple of rounds would be positively impacted (for the spectators benefit, not necessarily the lower seeds benefit...) You have ignored this user.

1/27/13 3:54 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Tango_MF 8 Member Since: 1/14/09 Posts: 656	How to make Jiu Jitsu more appealing to the masses: Add punches and kicks, it's easier to understand. Less groundwork too, according to our focus group - "It looks kinda gay." Lose the gi, looks too "karate kid" - maybe have them wear tight shorts for the female demographic instead. Oh, and put it in a cage. You have ignored this user.

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PrisonMattressPuncher Member Since: 12/17/12 Posts: 854	You can't. You will destroy it in no time. You have ignored this user.

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X_Rated 71 Member Since: 3/1/10 Posts: 22491	ADCC is entertaining as he'll just saying You have ignored this user.

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PrisonMattressPuncher Member Since: 12/17/12 Posts: 858	Shen in a thong? You have ignored this user.

1/27/13 10:57 AM

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mrgoodarmbar 34 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Sgt. Slaphead -
shen -

No way.

The path to ruin for martial arts is worrying about making them more "spectator friendly". WuShu, anyone,...?

You don't change the rules of a supposed "fighting art" to appeal visually to people who are never going to watch it anyway.

TKD and Judo have both bent over backwards to be more "visually appealing" to the masses --and, some would argue, made themselves "lesser" as combative systems in the process. Both are FAR more interesting for the average person to watch than BJJ, and still basically nobody watches either of them.

watching sport jiujitsu definitely does not bring to mind a "fighting art"

If we made it like combat sambo match, then we'd see more "fighting art". Lumax Cup had gi tops, striking and grappling......IIRC Egan Inoue fought in it? Something almost like that

you mean like the "combat jiu jitsu" that Eddie Bravo was trying to get going? No stiking unless on the ground.

I think things become a better spectator sport the more the spectators understand the sport. The need to understand the nuances of what is going on.

1/27/13 1:47 PM

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Sgt. Slaphead 14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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mrgoodarmbar -
Sgt. Slaphead -
shen -

No way.

The path to ruin for martial arts is worrying about making them more "spectator friendly". WuShu, anyone,...?

You don't change the rules of a supposed "fighting art" to appeal visually to people who are never going to watch it anyway.

TKD and Judo have both bent over backwards to be more "visually appealing" to the masses --and, some would argue, made themselves "lesser" as combative systems in the process. Both are FAR more interesting for the average person to watch than BJJ, and still basically nobody watches either of them.

watching sport jiujitsu definitely does not bring to mind a "fighting art"

If we made it like combat sambo match, then we'd see more "fighting art". Lumax Cup had gi tops, striking and grappling......IIRC Egan Inoue fought in it? Something almost like that

you mean like the "combat jiu jitsu" that Eddie Bravo was trying to get going? No stiking unless on the ground.

I think things become a better spectator sport the more the spectators understand the sport. The need to understand the nuances of what is going on.

bravo didnt have gi right?......gotta have gi and sitting to guard without grips to w/o grips or clinch to avoid striking gets you a taser penalty!

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Heel Hooker Member Since: 10/16/12 Posts: 595	Lower the price for spectators. You have ignored this user.

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cumprido1 9 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9663	T-shirt cannons in between matches. You have ignored this user.

1/27/13 11:45 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
shen 329 Edited: 01/28/13 12:38 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 19424	Probably the only thing that would really work would be to dust-off the Yamma Pit and hold matches there. You have ignored this user.

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HoldYerGround 3 Member Since: 10/10/08 Posts: 2923	Checked up on the article again and all the comments are trashing it. You have ignored this user.

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