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HighFreq 8 Member Since: 4/16/08 Posts: 495	@arielhelwani: Ryan said it's my dream to fight in the UFC and I want to stay. Dana said this your house and I'm honored you said that. @arielhelwani: Dana said he wanted Ryan to feel welcome and is happy he's staying. Randy, though, won't be welcome to corner or buy a UFC ticket, DW says.

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shaqitup 163 Member Since: 6/20/11 Posts: 2102	It's funny that Randy could have potentially ruined his son's career. You have ignored this user.

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yellow c0ckahlc 59 Member Since: 6/9/12 Posts: 8105	BUAHAHAHAHA Good. Randy fucked himself over. Now, we'll never get to see a HOF corner his son. Welcome to Bjornator. You have ignored this user.

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orcus Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 76094	Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling. You have ignored this user.

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trblesum13 Member Since: 1/21/13 Posts: 193	Lets see how many of these threads will be made. You have ignored this user.

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RobinHood Member Since: 7/25/10 Posts: 2541	Dana as a father and decent person would let Randy corner his son when it came to the crunch. You have ignored this user.

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Louisvillain 96 Member Since: 12/11/10 Posts: 5620	What did the UFC offer Randy as far as tv exposure, commentating, etc?... A man has got to get his. You have ignored this user.

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AK-BJJ 79 Member Since: 6/27/02 Posts: 3986	I was wondering what Dana was gonna do with this. I figured he'd throw Ryan to the wolves... Like offer BJ a million bucks to come back and kick the shit out of him then cut him lol You have ignored this user.

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Kostakio 532 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 52294	AK-BJJ - I was wondering what Dana was gonna do with this. I figured he'd throw Ryan to the wolves... Like offer BJ a million bucks to come back and kick the shit out of him then cut him lol haha You have ignored this user.

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.

The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point. Phone Post

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.

Nope. An Athletic Commission would have to deny Randy a license to be a second in order for him not be allowed to corner his son.

Promoters do not run Athletic Commissions. Influence in certain areas yes--but AC's follow statutes. Period.

Dana saying Randy can't buy a ticket to a UFC event sounds illegal, unethical or discriminatory to me.

It was said jest... I swear some of you were born without a shred of common sense Phone Post

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HaMMerHouseFAN 30 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 8846	What did I miss? What's the back story here on Dana and Couture? You have ignored this user.

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.
The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point.

I am a little surprised that that tactic works with cornermen, but not refs or judged, for example. dana has made it clear that he disagrees with some judging and that he'd be happy to never see maz ref another of his fights. so why can't he just refuse to let maz enter the building and have another ref handle his bouts for the night?

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DMBpig 54 Member Since: 5/8/10 Posts: 1925	Randy obviously can but Dana said he wouldn't be welcomed and wouldnt want him to. You have ignored this user.

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UGCTT_Capnsavem 2 Member Since: 12/22/04 Posts: 35436	HaMMerHouseFAN - What did I miss? What's the back story here on Dana and Couture? Couture ditched his UFC ties and signed huge deal with Bellator and Spike to be a coach in Bellator's MMA "TUF" type show, as well as other shows for Spike and Viacom. You have ignored this user.

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Kostakio 532 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 52300	HaMMerHouseFAN - What did I miss? What's the back story here on Dana and Couture? You missed Randy getting a huge job with Bellator and Dana being pissed about it. You have ignored this user.

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.
The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point.

I am a little surprised that that tactic works with cornermen, but not refs or judged, for example. dana has made it clear that he disagrees with some judging and that he'd be happy to never see maz ref another of his fights. so why can't he just refuse to let maz enter the building and have another ref handle his bouts for the night?

Corner men are licensed by the commission whereas refs and judges ate employees of the commission.

Again I'd have to look at the rules/regs but I'm pretty sure you get the commission as a package.

Think about it like this:

Fighter A is licensed by commission X.

Promotion 123 doesn't like Fighter X so they don't use him/her and refuse them access to the show.

Same thing with a corner man IMO. Phone Post

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.
The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point.

He could just tell Ryan if he's going to use his father as a corner man he won't be working with the UFC. Phone Post

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vaginal tear 128 Member Since: 9/29/10 Posts: 3002	UFC can refuse ticket service to whomever they want. I have no idea if Dana an stop someone from cornering but I'm sure he will do all he can the make it happen. If the MMA world hasn't learned already, a pissed off Dana is a terrible thing to have working against you. You have ignored this user.

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.
The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point.
He could just tell Ryan if he's going to use his father as a corner man he won't be working with the UFC.

Think man. Ryan is a commodity who has the potential to be very profitable to the UFC. Why would they draw a line in the sand like that?

Dana has said Randy is persona non grata when it comes to UFC events.

He's quite happy to have Ryan there.

If anything I'd say this shows Dana is mellowing as he ages.

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WrestlingSucks 10 Member Since: 12/30/03 Posts: 19762	Its a moot point because ryan coutures ufc run will not go well imo You have ignored this user.

2/3/13 10:54 AM

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I'm a fan of Randy Couture but I've got to say the guy has done some very selfish things.

Did he ever spare a thought to how the decision he made would affect his son in what must be the biggest moment of his career, just imagine getting your dream job you've been working towards your whole career and your father nearly messes it up without a care for how it would impact his sons job and future prospects.

I know my dad wouldn't do that to me. Phone Post

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Is Dana able to block Randy from cornering? I would think that would be up to the ACs, who of course wouldn't give two shits about inter-promotional squabbling.
The promoter would just deny him access to the building. Sort of like a bar reserving the right to refuse entry. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in their contracts.

You're right that the commission licenses corners but if he can't physically get in the building it's moot point.
He could just tell Ryan if he's going to use his father as a corner man he won't be working with the UFC.

Think man. Ryan is a commodity who has the potential to be very profitable to the UFC. Why would they draw a line in the sand like that?

Dana has said Randy is persona non grata when it comes to UFC events.

He's quite happy to have Ryan there.

If anything I'd say this shows Dana is mellowing as he ages.

I completely disagree.

Randy is probably a huge influence in Ryan's training. He's going to deprive him of having his father there in his corner, and won't even let him come sit in the building to cheer his son on?

He's hurting Ryan to spite Randy, that shows he's as fucked up as he ever was. Phone Post

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