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PA Commission overturns Lentz-Oliveria


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From: Nanook 157 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:13 PM
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Officially, the fight has been overturned. Is a rematch on the horizon?

From: Nanook 157 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:17 PM
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Matt Mitrione confirms:

mattmitrione Matt Mitrione
PSAC Overturns Oliveira vs. Lentz - does this mean that Morecraft and I get FOTN??? @UFC @danawhite

From: NJstileNJ 4 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:21 PM
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no rematch needed...this is like the Hamill/Jones Situation. Oliveria kicked the shit out of Lentz and would have with or without the illegal knee.

From: Chris Power 22 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:21 PM
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That was quick and painless.

Take note, commissions: That's how you handle shit.

From: pocotouro 7 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:33 PM
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greg sirb is in the house. lil dude don't play any games.

but fwiw oliveira beat the breaks off lentz. no sense reliving that again.

From: Jeven Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 4:52 PM
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john kirby do - oliveira and lentz was neck and neck until the BS foul, lentz could absolutely have won that fight
Ya right oliveria was picking him apart lentz had/has no chance illegal knee or not! Phone Post

From: Haadogei Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 5:04 PM
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most of you are overreacting both ways, Oliveira was winning but the first round was not like a huge beatdown or anything. Oliveira was winning the second round decisively but the knee clearly put the fight away where it may not have ended otherwise.

A rematch is not really warranted and Oliveira proved to be better that day but the idea that Lentz has no chance is pretty weak.

From: Caught_clean 15 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 5:08 PM
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Haadogei - most of you are overreacting both ways, Oliveira was winning but the first round was not like a huge beatdown or anything. Oliveira was winning the second round decisively but the knee clearly put the fight away where it may not have ended otherwise.

A rematch is not really warranted and Oliveira proved to be better that day but the idea that Lentz has no chance is pretty weak.
The first round was competetive until he dropped Lentz bad and actually almost put him away. Anytime a fighter is dropped and almost put away in a round its not really a close round.
 

From: Willin 176 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 5:20 PM
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Does anyone have a GIF of the knee? Didn't see the fight.

From: TheAssMurderer 71 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 5:25 PM
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Willin - Does anyone have a GIF of the knee? Didn't see the fight.


It was pretty bad but he was clearly getting up. Lentz was on his way to losing almost certainly - gassed and beat up.

From: Petey B 22 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 6:15 PM
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Wow...not that Lentz was losing badly, but he easily could have come back. There are probably 1000's of fights in which guys have come back from worse beatings than that. Anyone see the Kongo/Barry fight?

It sounds like people are suggesting that fight should just be stopped when someone gets the upper hand. Heck, why even have a fight? Just award the win to the betting favorite. :-)

From: ChaosOverkill 451 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 6:58 PM
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john kirby do - oliveira and lentz was neck and neck until the BS foul, lentz could absolutely have won that fight



Hahahahaha you're fucking retarded

From: caposa 1559 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:02 PM
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I cant disagree with this decision, but in my opinion Oliviera was going to finish him that round regardless of the knee

sucks for Oliviera, but I have a feeling they will still treat it like a win

From: Kanabull Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:05 PM
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Lol Lentz has a few come from behind wins. Ignorant to count him out. Nobody is ever out. Phone Post

From: AndyMain 8 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:07 PM
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paneo astima - wow this is some bullshit, decision should have stayed how it was.


I agree with most of the posts about Olivera taking control of the fight by that point but that was one of the most blatant illegal shots in awhile. He should be thankful that he didn't get DQ'd.

From: blueheron20816 24 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:10 PM
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while I do think Oliviera would have most likely won anyways, they dont give FOTN to one sided beatdowns. I dont think this is even close to jones vs hamill.

Heres the upside, since Oliveira is no longer technically coming off a win, maybe they will match him with pettis. I think that would be a great fight for the fans.

From: Masakyst 31 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:15 PM
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 LEGALIZE KNEES

From: Grantman 14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:26 PM
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Oliveria was winning but to count Lentz out would be foolish ESPECIALLY seeing what happened with Barry and Kongo later that night.

Lentz was also losing quite clearly to Lowe and he ended up winning that fight as well....

To me all this does is make Jim Miller's win look even more impressive being that Lentz was undefeated in the UFC and Oliviera was taking it to him....

From: Treadstone06 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:37 PM
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Here's a question UG. Why are we not absolutely tearing Olivia apart? I didn't get to see the fight but the gif looked pretty blatant. When Bisping did the same thing, people ranted and raved about how he should be cut or whatever for a week. I don't care about either fighter, just thought it kinda odd.

From: Dr Violence 30 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 7:58 PM
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Chris Power - That was quick and painless.

Take note, commissions: That's how you handle shit.

Taking four days to recognize a totally obvious blunder that everyone in the arena saw immediately is not what I'd call handling shit. Although it's certainly better than other commissions like Nevada who choose simply to endorse the referee's mistakes and ignore any appeals.

I still hope Lentz sues the pants off them.



From: Dr Violence 30 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 8:05 PM
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^hopefully ex-ref

From: Nanook 157 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 8:05 PM
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TheDoom, he got the loudest boos of the evening..

Poor guy came out to ref another match that night, and the crowd was absolutely relentless.

From: caposa 1559 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 9:02 PM
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Treadstone06 - Here's a question UG. Why are we not absolutely tearing Olivia apart? I didn't get to see the fight but the gif looked pretty blatant. When Bisping did the same thing, people ranted and raved about how he should be cut or whatever for a week. I don't care about either fighter, just thought it kinda odd.
Rivera had both knees down when Bisping clinched and kneed him

at least with the Oliviera knee you could give him the benefit of the doubt because Lentz was on his way to standing up, looked like the knee just got thrown too soon

From: Infamous Ed Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/29/11 10:00 PM
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Grantman - Oliveria was winning but to count Lentz out would be foolish ESPECIALLY seeing what happened with Barry and Kongo later that night.

Lentz was also losing quite clearly to Lowe and he ended up winning that fight as well....

To me all this does is make Jim Miller's win look even more impressive being that Lentz was undefeated in the UFC and Oliviera was taking it to him....
Lenz was tiring while ollivera started turning it up in the 2nd. Phone Post

From: Diesel67 59 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 6/30/11 1:45 AM
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 If video doesn't play, click the link:     
http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/Diesel67/NHB/?action=view&current=Lentzgetsillegalknee.mp4


Gotta legalize knees to downed foes.  This used to be no holds or hits barred.  Now we've got nothing but bars.  Just another diluted combat sport.

Combat or Sport: Whicn is it?

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