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From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 1:58 PM
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We will see about that one! Slow and un athletic....personaly, I think that just about the only guys that will give Bigfoot trouble are Cain and JDS. The rest, I bet my money that he will maul them! But everyone has a right to their opinion.

From: EckY 50 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:09 PM
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 Toquinho has jsut come out saying he was so sick he gassed a minute into the fight, that sounds like an excuse to me, even though he said it wasn't.

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:16 PM
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Bigfoot will fight anyone put in front of him. We did not even flinch at fighting Cain, even though we had barely a month to get ready for a fight vs arguably the toughest guy in the division. I didn't hear Rousimar saying anything, nor do I know anything about him being sick.

From: PwntiusPilate Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:23 PM
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You guys are idiots if you don't think the cut played a huge role in this fight. Trying to defend against a beast like Cain when you're blind is impossible. So having that cut end up in the exact spot it was in, was unfortunate for Bigfoot. And while Cain cut him fair and square, how it happened was basically a fluke.

It's clearly a different fight otherwise.

I think the fight is much more competitive 9/10 times, even though I expect Cain to win most of them.

If you're so confident about Bigfoot being an elite fighter though, throw him right back into the fire vs Frank Mir.

From: sparkyman 39 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:25 PM
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TOAO -  What I saw was bigfoot getting dominated by cain, and bigfoots bjj looked like it was overated, he couldnt control cain at all in his guard, and then cain tkoed him. Phone Post
So you're saying that you didn't see the fight?
 

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:26 PM
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Exactly one of the fights we are looking for!

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:28 PM
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I mean Mir. Bet taken!

From: BIGFOOTinMyMouth Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:30 PM
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Hey Alex, as you can see from my screen name, I lost a screen name bet pulling for our boy Bigfoot. I look forward to seeing him wreak havoc in future fights.

Joey says hey. Train judo.

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:31 PM
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And your barrel bottom is a prety rich one! I do not find any of those guys pushovers either! Just because they lost? Fighters will lose. The 3 you state here are no slouches, they come to fight! I can see a lot worse guys in the UFC HW div.

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:35 PM
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Lol! Bigfoot is a monster! And he was in very good shape for this fight, even though his camp was not as long as could be. But is what it is! This is an unforgiving sport, a small error will transform into a big loss!

From: P4PBOSS Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:39 PM
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AJDavis - This is not the first time I have stated that Elbows on the ground should not be allowed, for the same reasons I have already stated here.
Anyone saying that Bigfoot is not a top athlete will be swallowing his words in the very near future.
My guys have just come off recent losses, Rousimar Vs Belcher, Barboza vs Varner, for example, and no excuses were made. Their opponents were simply the better fighters on these occasions. And I am not even making an excuse for Bigfoot, just stating a fact, he could not see due to the cut, or any of the above posters think other wise?
Then he should have avoided the take down in the first place. I for one love a little blood once in a while. Its in the rules that elbows are legal and doctors have stopped fights in the past for cuts. I say more fighters should finish fights this way. Cain is a better fighter then big foot. Fact! We all saw that too Phone Post

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 2:56 PM
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He should not have opened with that kick. He definitely was that night! I dont mind a " Little " Blood either, but that was not a " Little" blood! I still dont think elbows on the ground are positive for the sport.

From: I_Pulled_Guard_On_Kimbo Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:02 PM
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AJDavis - This is not the first time I have stated that Elbows on the ground should not be allowed, for the same reasons I have already stated here.
Anyone saying that Bigfoot is not a top athlete will be swallowing his words in the very near future.
My guys have just come off recent losses, Rousimar Vs Belcher, Barboza vs Varner, for example, and no excuses were made. Their opponents were simply the better fighters on these occasions. And I am not even making an excuse for Bigfoot, just stating a fact, he could not see due to the cut, or any of the above posters think other wise?
I seem to remember Paul Harris releasing his official excuse statement yesterday, actually. He was "sick", and he had "no strength to finish the heel hook". Unless you're saying that isn't an excuse. The o-post in particular isn't something I would call an excuse, and I might even partially agree with what you said in it, but Palhares was totally making an excuse with his statement. Phone Post

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Posted: 5/31/12 3:04 PM
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DaddyRich - I'd trade elbows for knees on the ground.

I'd prefer both.

It seems kind of silly to link them together.

From: cruedi 82 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:07 PM
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MMA should just ban wrestlers. They've taken away headbutts, allowed bjjers to stall using closed guards, started with rounds and stand-ups, all to take away from the wrestlers strengths. Just admit they're too good and get rid of them.


From: TexDeuce 92 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:09 PM
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Elbows should be banned. Most of the time all they do is cut. A few cases they fucked people up but not that often. Bring knees to a downed opponent back, that will change the dynamic of the fights. BAN ELBOWS. Phone Post

From: Motivated Penn 68 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:16 PM
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Cuts are a big part of the sport, but there can be little doubt they are wildly serendipitous and played a huge role in this particular fight.

I think Cain won fair and square, the cut doesn't change anything, but without that cut... well I think Cain still would have won, but the cut certainly won the fight in itself, and we didn't really get to see how these guys match up.

Having said that, that is indeed the nature of the sport, and hey, Cain was on the losing side of a similar fight changing event himself vs JDS.

From: Obie1FaShobie 29 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:21 PM
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From: DamnSevern 1192 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:24 PM
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 offtopic....Alex I just wanted to give you props for what you did with John Lineker a few weeks ago

 respect

From: AJDavis 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:25 PM
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Peolple see what they want to see. So Bigfoots BJJ is overated? Realy? Why, Cain was doing everything he could to pass, and even blind, bigfoot was holding his own!
I dont remember saying anything about the fight vs Cormier, Bigfoot got cought early in the fight, and never recouped! Once again, been doing this for over a decade, and have always had the same opinion on elbows, I dont think they are positive for the sport.
So, put Nelson, Verdum, Struve atc in front of Bigfoot, and we shall see!

From: Obie1FaShobie 29 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:26 PM
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From: stonepony Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:27 PM
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I disagree about taking away elbows. It would just be a way to penalize wrestlers. IMO. It would make a lot of LHWs happy though.

How many fights have actually been stopped due to cuts from elbows on the bottom?

From: Obie1FaShobie 29 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:28 PM
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From: stonepony Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/31/12 3:29 PM
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junobeach - Remove elbows on the ground

Give us soccer kicks and knees to the head
You realize what it would do to the sport to have somebody killed on live TV?

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Posted: 5/31/12 3:30 PM
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Poor Dan Henderson...

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