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From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:54 PM
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Not sexually u freaks!


If anyone is interested let me know. I am fighting Tomasz Drwal at the TUF 9 finale on Spike. I have a feeling it will make the broadcast.

I had a bad experience last time with sponsors at UFC 95. Ken Pavia and his guys shorted me almost 4 grand when i gave him a chance and trusted he wasnt shady. Then told me he got me a 5 grand bonus from Joe Silva to calm me down and make up for it which i found out wasnt his doing either.

Anyway, if interested

mikecies@yahoo.com
www.myspace.com/mikecies

From: EvilMaster Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:55 PM
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Here we go.

From: White347LX 14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:56 PM
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Like fish in a barrel, I tell ya.

From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:56 PM
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Ken also almost talked me into being bitter towards Monte saying that he talked to Joe Silva and Joe Silva said Monte never talked to him about me, etc, etc and Pavia could get me in the UFC asap. He tried to steal me. Joe Silva then told me in person at UFC 95 Monte was calling for quite awhile to get me in and that wasnt at all true. I felt let down cause i liked Pavia and gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Pavia is a master manipulator and i feel stupid for almost falling for it. Why i let him handle my sponsors for a fight is beyond me.


Thanks again guys! TTT
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From: TrainJudo Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:56 PM
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The pav is an idiot.

Good luck Mike..Look forward to your fight.

From: OriginalTUFer Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:57 PM
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Man. Why do these situations happen? Does Pav just promise too much? I can't believe that he'd steal.

From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:57 PM
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I guess everyone was right about the Pav. I cant wait until he comes on here and makes some shit up to justify what happened. I might attack him in Vegas literally as i will be moody from my weight cut.

From: mrzipplokk 404 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:57 PM
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 TTT for Ken's side.

Not saying you are dishonest Mike, it's just that there are always at least two sides.


From: Hong Kong Phooey 1110 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:57 PM
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MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ - Not sexually u freaks!


If anyone is interested let me know. I am fighting Tomasz Drwal at the TUF 9 finale on Spike. I have a feeling it will make the broadcast.

I had a bad experience last time with sponsors at UFC 95. Ken Pavia and his guys shorted me almost 4 grand when i gave him a chance and trusted he wasnt shady. Then told me he got me a 5 grand bonus from Joe Silva to calm me down and make up for it which i found out wasnt his doing either.

Anyway, if interested

mikecies@yahoo.com
www.myspace.com/mikecies
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From: Fathead D 154 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:58 PM
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 I hope Mike gets paid.  Pavia has proven he is scum over and over again.  When are fighters going to figure that out.

TTT for Mike C.

From: sgavin Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 7:59 PM
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 I've seen these posts before- in the June 20th ufc thread-

Due to the thread name change, I am guessing this one will be the one to reach 1000 posts

Agree with zip- 2 sides...

From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:00 PM
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I know i will never see that $$ from Pavia but its all good. Its the past, lesson learned, bridge burned. Full Tilt Poker, Hyabusa, MMAfightewarehouse all sponsored me but i never saw a dime from any of them casue they paid Pavia directly. Pavia then made up something about charging me 30% instead of 20% which he agreed on. Charged me extra for banners, tshirts, etc above the 20% deal we had verbally.

Thank god warrior wear, headblade, naga sent the $ to me directly or i would be struggling

From: Hong Kong Phooey 1110 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:00 PM
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From: biggator 42 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:03 PM
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ttt

From: MMArijuana Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:04 PM
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Ken Pavia, you're such a fucking rotten cumbubble loving mother fucker!

Good luck, Mike. :)

From: robnashville 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:04 PM
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gettin in early

From: EvilMaster Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:04 PM
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Monte is good people.

From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:05 PM
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I doubt Pavia will post for the sheer fact he told me he talked to DANA WHITE and JOE SILVA personally about them giving me a bonus to make up for the money Pavia lost me on Full Tilt, etc. He called me and said good news man i talked to Dana and Joe, they are gonna hook you up but its cool man i dont want a dime from you for doing you this favor. lol

From: OriginalTUFer Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:05 PM
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Why would the sponsor money ever be sent to him directly? I would never allow that, if I were a fighter.

From: ShanTheMan 904 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:06 PM
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Heartbroken Lee - I would either sue him or beat him up.

I say option B

From: sgavin Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:07 PM
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 We can find out easy enough that part dude-

Cindy- could you verify that Ken got him that bonus with the baldfather?

From: Moofmonster Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:07 PM
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Pavia is a bitch and we all know it.

I've heard tons of stories about that guy.

Hope more fighters reveal that person as the little rat he is.

From: White347LX 14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:07 PM
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Isn't Pavia the guy who stayed with Luke Cummo for a couple weeks and drank piss with him?

From: MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ 41 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:08 PM
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UFC 100: MIKE C vs. PAVIA

i will tie my ankles together and my hands behind my back...literally.

From: Macedawgg 60 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 5/28/09 8:11 PM
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 This is very easy. 

Just require the agent to maintain a bond.  Alternatively, hire one with a J.D.--that is also a fairly effective bond if their license is threatened. 

Also very easy to verify one way or the other.  If the split is 20%, copies of checks paid to the MMAAgents and to Mike C. should put this to bed quite easily.  Other agents collect checks.  They make a copy of the check received, a copy of the check cut to the fighter, and a copy of the invoice for services rendered to the fighter, which the fighter then pays to the agent.  If the agent makes this deduction directly--still no problem.  The paper trail of checks, deductions, and invoice still should all add up to the total. 

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