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The Judge that gave 30-27 griffin is a DOG Bro.


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From: jkd4200 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:13 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong....

Lester Griffin is "Surf Dog" for the Dog Brothers Martial Arts (who i highly respect).

This guy has been around the fight game for a long time and you would think he knows his shit...

He cost the fight for Tito... Tito for sure won round 1 and 2... and no question about round 2.... but where do you get 30-27?

From: Master Shredder 23 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:15 PM
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 Hmmm Forrest Griffin...Lester Griffin?

Coincidence?

From: OzLoco 18 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:17 PM
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I'm honestly hoping someone comes up with a logical argument as to how someone scores that bout 30-27. Totally beyond me.

From: healzyou Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:22 PM
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Perhaps he gave Tito rd1 and then scored rd 3 a 10-8

From: OzLoco 18 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:34 PM
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While we're on the subject, can someone please point me to the unified MMA rules?

(I should actually read them before I start shooting my mouth off about crappy judging. Not that it's stopped me before...)

From: BUFFGEO 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:35 PM
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well no question Forrest finished strong and definitely won round 3... but You couldnt find a houseplant who would give Rd 1&2 to him... so how the fuck he won at all is beyond me

From: saerbarnet Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:35 PM
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Maybe he had a good seat close to the ring girls so he watched them instead?

From: Cant_Land_Head_kicks Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:47 PM
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 I really don't know whats going on with UFC scoring these days it is totally crazy, it's always been a problem but since Machida/Shogun it's been more noticeable and really over the top.

From: OzLoco 18 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:48 PM
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It's NSAC scoring. Dana White hates it as much as anyone else.

From: jkd4200 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/22/09 11:51 PM
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healzyou - Perhaps he gave Tito rd1 and then scored rd 3 a 10-8



i saw the judges score card at mmaweekly.com

nobody scored the fight 10-8

From: NotTheNoobURLooking4 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:28 AM
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Do you have an actual link to these scorecards? I can't find them at mmaweekly.

From: Shaz Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:34 AM
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OzLoco - While we're on the subject, can someone please point me to the unified MMA rules?

(I should actually read them before I start shooting my mouth off about crappy judging. Not that it's stopped me before...)
NSAC rules - http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html
NJSAC rules - http://www.state.nj.us/lps/sacb/docs/martial.html

Google is your friend :)

-Shaz!
 

From: Poindexter 48 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:38 AM
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 Forrest won round one and stole round 2, IMO.  He destroyed Tito in round 3 and Tito's bitchfest after the fight sealed the deal.

From: BJJkilla 5 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:40 AM
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healzyou - Perhaps he gave Tito rd1 and then scored rd 3 a 10-8


so he gave forrest a 11 for round 3? LOL

your math fails.

From: OzLoco 18 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:42 AM
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Cheers Shaz. That was kinda lazy of me :p I'll have a read, ta.

From: BSurely Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:42 AM
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From: KimuraCrunch Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:44 AM
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I was drunk when I watched, but I'm not so sure Tito won both of the first 2 rounds. I see some people on here giving round 1 to Forrest, I see others giving round 2 to Forrest, this guy just happened to give them both to Forrest.

From: BJJkilla 5 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:46 AM
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wow rosales gave tito round 1 but not round 2?

tito was robbed.

From: BSurely Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:47 AM
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 I had Tito winning the 2nd and losing 1 and 3.. I thought it should have been 29-28 for Griffin...

From: HereWeAre Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 12:47 AM
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Wow there are actually people who think Tito won that fight?

From: Bryan Reese 6 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 1:08 AM
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HereWeAre - Wow there are actually people who think Tito won that fight?
Based on UFC scoring, yes. Based on fight as a whole? Fuck no.

I think Forrest won. But I wouldn't be offended if Tito had.

From: MartialArtFTW 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 1:21 AM
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Bryan Reese - 
HereWeAre - Wow there are actually people who think Tito won that fight?
Based on UFC scoring, yes. Based on fight as a whole? Fuck no.

I think Forrest won. But I wouldn't be offended if Tito had.


ttt

From: Hecademus Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 1:29 AM
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 He knew that Tito had a great excuse already planned and he didn't want Tito to waste it.

From: Elias Cepeda 108 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 1:29 AM
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 Round 1 could have gone either way. Round 2 was easier to score for Tito. Round 3 was obviously for Forrest.

Forrest won the fight of fights, but with the whacky 10 point must system, it was a very close fight with it all coming down to (or should have, imo) who the judges thought won the first round.


From: jkd4200 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 11/23/09 1:32 AM
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getting your assed kicked for a round and then sweeping and staying on top for 30 seconds does not win you the round.

ufc is known for rewarding takedowns... tito's takedowns and GnP in the first 2 rounds won him the fight.


I think "Surf Dog" has taken one too many hits to the head by his board.

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