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My response to K. Kizer's response


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From: Joe Rogan 978 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:32 PM
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We all know that there's a big problem with judging in MMA, and we all know that Kizer is pretending that there's nothing wrong with having a bunch of people with no martial arts training and no understanding of the sport judging it on a professional level.
There's only one way for me to bring the maximum attention to this issue; and that's to voice my opinion on air during a live Television show where I know that millions of people are going to listen to it.

I understand that this upset him, but he's had plenty of time to correct all of these judging issues, and yet he denies there's a real problem and continues to employ people to judge important fights that are ignorant of many of the details of Mixed Martial Arts.

I also found it quite hilarious that he denies that the NSAC is 100% to blame for this judging situation and even brought up that we're taking NSAC appointed judges to Canada.
The NSAC for all it's flaws is the most important ruling body in combat sports. To bring judges that aren't appointed and approved by the NSAC would open up a whole new can of worms. The question would also come up as to who appoints those other judges?
What is the UFC's relationship with them?

Kizer is a politician, and one of the biggest issues with him is that he's not willing to admit that he's not done the best job possible with the best intentions of the sport and it's participants in mind. This calculated denial of a problem is the reason why these same judges are turning in bad decisions over and over again. In order for him to correct the problem he's going to have to admit that he's been wrong in employing these people, and he's not willing to do that.

Mixed Martial Arts is a far more complicated sport than boxing, and in order for someone to be educated in the subtle details that are playing out in a fight they have to have some martial arts experience themselves. There are PLENTY of fans out there that would do a far better job than these people that he's got working for him that have been grandfathered in from the boxing community. To judge MMA on the highest level is a huge honor and responsibility, and should be bestowed upon people that appreciate that honor and appreciate and understand every single aspect of the sport. Anything less than that is an insult to these great athletes that are dedicating their lives to compete in the toughest sport in the world, and an insult to the fans that have to be disappointed with one terrible decision after the next.

Thankfully we live in a time where the fans have an option to get their opinions out there.
I've seen all the positive support online, and I urge you guys to keep it up. Please keep up the emails, and keep up the blog posts. The only way this thing is going to change is if the people in charge feel like they have to do something about it to keep their jobs intact.

From: Archangel Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:32 PM
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i support joe rogan!

From: NonstopRocker03 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:33 PM
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Archangel - i support joe rogan!

There is literally no way you read all of that, but I agree.

From: Heddy 4 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:33 PM
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 ttt

From: Kalin Johnston 47 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:33 PM
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Rogan is speaking truth

From: BrainofPJ 3 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:34 PM
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good post

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Posted: 12/6/10 7:37 PM
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Go get em Joe Phone Post

From: tomp6581 11 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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Go get em Joe Phone Post

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Posted: 12/6/10 7:37 PM
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Excellent post.

From: iceman420 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:37 PM
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Joe - i was thrilled to hear your rant on the judging. it needed to be said.

Great post.

From: swhite 30 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:38 PM
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 Great post Joe. Something needs to change.

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NonstopRocker03 - 
Archangel - i support joe rogan!

There is literally no way you read all of that, but I agree.



i didnt have to. i support joe rogan and i know what he's about.



and i wanted to post first :D

From: FRANKI2154 2 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:38 PM
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thank you Joe.

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From: brahmabull81 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:40 PM
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How could you not read all that? Its very important and when we look back in like 15 years and comment on how great it is that we got something done with the judging problem, you'll wish you paid more attention.

We can stop this. This is becomming too common for people to just let it slide anymore. You literally have to worry about EVERY fight that goes to a decision now, minus the obvious (even some of those are being called wrong too now).

From: likatiga 62 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:40 PM
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I was stoked when you went off on Saturday night Joe, thanks for that.

The most frustrating part of this is that it's such an easy fix. MMA judges should be qualified as MMA judges and not just people who also judge boxing. There's enough money in the AC's to set up a qualification method and generate qualified MMA judges.

The bottom line is, somebody needs to be tough and root out all the incompetent people who currently have jobs due to their relationships with the old establishment. Is Kizer that guy? Probably not unfortunately.

From: Jamie_B 87 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:40 PM
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Things do need to change and light does need to be bought to the situation, I think you were 100% right in what you said and are one of the best people that could of voiced there opinion on the matter. Phone Post

From: caposa 1424 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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a lot of truth there

From: orcus Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:41 PM
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I also found it quite hilarious that he denies that the NSAC is 100% to blame for this judging situation and even brought up that we're taking NSAC appointed judges to Canada.
The NSAC for all it's flaws is the most important ruling body in combat sports. To bring judges that aren't appointed and approved by the NSAC would open up a whole new can of worms. The question would also come up as to who appoints those other judges?
What is the UFC's relationship with them?


Good point, but why choose those particular judges? In other words, why does the UFC *EVER* bring Cecil Peoples, for example?

From: TheCorrect Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:41 PM
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Awesome! Thanks Joe!

From: minotauro11 62 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:41 PM
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I support Joe Rogan. Phone Post

From: The Destroyer88 Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:42 PM
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MMA judging is a bunch of faggotry.

And well put Joe. This shit needs to change.

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Posted: 12/6/10 7:43 PM
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Great post Joe Phone Post

From: JimmersonzGlove 395 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/6/10 7:43 PM
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 Its a shame that Zuffa lobbyed against PRIDE rules/judging in CA.

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