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Y r ppl convinced rory is the second coming?


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From: Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 5:58 AM
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Because firas, his traner said so?

The reality is that rory may be ye second coming but at this point we have no idea of how good he is.

So far he has fought mediocre competition other than condit who stopped him. Yes he destroyed che mulls but is che mulls even in the top 30?

And looking at his skillet, what is he good at?

Striking? He is athletic and moves well and throws a variety of technique but so far he hasn't really shown superior standup. Che made him very uncomfortable in the early part of their fight on the feet.

Wrestling? That seems to be his forte and he has a decent single but what good wrestlers had he fought? Sure he suplexed Nate badly a few times but Nates wrestling is not good and he was undersized. Mike Pyle may be the best wrestler he faced and mike outwrestled him. And although he was able to take condit down multiple times condit, whose wrestling isn't good at all, stuffed a number of takedowns and took rory down a couple times?

Bjj? So far I haven't seen great bjj skills from him. Not sure if I have seen him perform any great submissions and his ground game is mostly in guard GNP based.

I do think he wins this fight in the second and third by bj gassing and due to rorys size and athleticism but I don't get why people think he will just walk through bj. On what basis? Phone Post

From: FedorEmilioEstevez 58 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 6:09 AM
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I was wondering the same thing. I just rewatched the Pyle fight and he looked great. I do remember Che giving him a bit if trouble on the feet before he took him down but I only watched once.

He's pretty impressive for a young guy - seems at ease in the cage.

This fight will tell us all a lot. Phone Post

From: Toquinho 106 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 7:09 AM
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Hes effective. Phone Post

From: in_different 28 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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Because sometimes you can see potential. Jon Jones was very hyped up too. He turned out fine. Rory is the real deal

From: Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 7:54 AM
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in_different - Because sometimes you can see potential. Jon Jones was very hyped up too. He turned out fine. Rory is the real deal
But early on Jon showed tremendous wrestling against top wrestlers. That's why I picked him to win the belt long before he did. But what had rory proven and against whom? Phone Post

From: Chris Power 23 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 8:33 AM
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Everybody always seems to forget how that Condit fight was actually going. I doubt it'd go the same way again, but let's not act like Condit simply beat up Rory and the day was done. He had to come back from incredible adversity - which Rory put him in.

From: in_different 28 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku - 
in_different - Because sometimes you can see potential. Jon Jones was very hyped up too. He turned out fine. Rory is the real deal
But early on Jon showed tremendous wrestling against top wrestlers. That's why I picked him to win the belt long before he did. But what had rory proven and against whom? Phone Post

Rory has shown great ability to defend against submissions in Condit fight. Also how to pressure an expert opponent. He has shown killer gnp in the mills fight. He has shown amazing transition strikes and techniques against Pyle. Relentless takedowns and expert game planning against Nate Diaz. Competent striking in every fight. Composure , strength, speed, intelligence, and a great team are on his side.

I'm rooting for bj, but Rory is the real deal

From: irishrottie 147 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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A talent. But its just brute force with so and so technique. We havent seen a power house like that at 170. Gunnar Nelson is a real talent that is truly a prodigy.


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From: tetris 544 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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Rory was beating up on Condit more than GSP was imo until he got caught. The kid is straight up beast.

From: RSim1 3 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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This fight will be a big test for Rory, but even if he beats BJ I still wouldn't think he is the "second coming". For me to believe he is the "second coming" he would have to win the title and then defend it more than Hughes did. Phone Post

From: vincan469 138 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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RSim1 -  This fight will be a big test for Rory, but even if he beats BJ I still wouldn't think he is the "second coming". For me to believe he is the "second coming" he would have to win the title and then defend it more than Hughes did. Phone Post

i think he would have already arrived if that it is your criteria.

From: Anderson P Sonnen 716 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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The Condit fight kind of paved the way for Rory's recognition. Had he not been tkod in late in the 3rd, he would have been nodded the split decision. His standup is alright, but his wrestling is where he stands out.

With that said, I don't really buy into him and I will not until he proves himself against a few other top 5 fighters, in which he isn't forced to use his wrestling like in the Mills fight. Unfortunately for him, BJ is a bjj black belt and will give him more trouble on the ground than anyone he's faced so far. Believe me it will go to the ground, it would not be a wise decision to stand with BJ. Phone Post

From: OnlyTheStrongSurvive 590 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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From: epwar 592 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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People think he is the second coming because the UFC says so.  GSP annointed him his successor and they've followed suit.


From: shaqitup 75 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 10:27 AM
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I'm pretty sure it all started when he almost beat the guy that just fought for the title about 2 years ago.

Then he beat Mike pyle within a round, who most people do respect as a solid fighter.

From: Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 10:30 AM
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Chris Power - Everybody always seems to forget how that Condit fight was actually going. I doubt it'd go the same way again, but let's not act like Condit simply beat up Rory and the day was done. He had to come back from incredible adversity - which Rory put him in.
Incredible adversity? No rory was winning but it wasn't like he was destroying condit. He got a few takedowns and did ok standing. Phone Post

From: R00STER 34 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 11:04 AM
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vincan469 - 
RSim1 -  This fight will be a big test for Rory, but even if he beats BJ I still wouldn't think he is the "second coming". For me to believe he is the "second coming" he would have to win the title and then defend it more than Hughes did. Phone Post

i think he would have already arrived if that it is your criteria.

Yeah wouldn't that make Rory the THIRD coming, and GSP would be the second? lol

But yeah I'm sick of hearing about this freakin dude honestly. I hope he gets KTFO so we can hear all these people say "I never thought he was that good" blah blah blah.

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From: Gooner H Smith Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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I rewatched the Condit fight and I think its foolish to say that Rory was dominating in any way. He did hardly any damage. Got a couple TDs but didnt do much, and Condit got up fairly easily every time. Not to mention the fact that Condit hurt him standing in every round and then put on a GnP clinic in the 3rd. BJ is going to stomp this kid. 


From: Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 11:38 AM
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heres condit/rory btw for those that are misremembering what happened

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40DZKndiM4


From: sparkyman 85 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 11:59 AM
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I dislike hyperbole like 'second coming' or 'next goat' etc. but rory is an incredible talent at such a young age. I love watching his fights. I think he is a challenge for anyone at 170. Phone Post

From: RICKYB 66 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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I still feel Eric silva is going to be a beast , I feel the ditch fight will be why the first Hughes fight was for Gsp Phone Post

From: OnlyTheStrongSurvive 590 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
Posted: 12/8/12 3:47 PM
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LilBrockonmychest -
Gooner H Smith - 

I rewatched the Condit fight and I think its foolish to say that Rory was dominating in any way. He did hardly any damage. Got a couple TDs but didnt do much, and Condit got up fairly easily every time. Not to mention the fact that Condit hurt him standing in every round and then put on a GnP clinic in the 3rd. BJ is going to stomp this kid. 


But that's just it.  He WAS beating Condit 2 rounds to 0 and this is when he was just 20 years old.  That's pretty impressive and he's dominated every opponent since then.

That said I hope BJ kicks his ass tonight.

Have you seen the stats for that fight? I don't think he was beating Condit. Rory got outstruck everywhere, even when he was on top of Condit. Phone Post

From: Anderson P Sonnen 716 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile
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"With that said, I don't really buy into him and I will not until he proves himself against a few other top 5 fighters, in which he isn't forced to use his wrestling like in the Mills fight. Unfortunately for him, BJ is a bjj black belt and will give him more trouble on the ground than anyone he's faced so far. Believe me it will go to the ground, it would not be a wise decision to stand with BJ"

.....boy was I wrong. Rory destroyed penn......Super pissed at Rory taunting BJ so disrespectfully, though. A true legend in BJ who stepped up to fight a guy who is much, much bigger. On top of all things, I'm upset with BJ's mentality on mma. MMA isn't about "The smaller guy beating the bigger guy", it's about making smart decisions based on sense, not emotions. BJ should be at LW. While still fully respecting him in challenging himself, I just think its too late in his career to make these choices.

Always a fan, and I hope Penn gives us some more fights in the LW. Either way, I'll be rooting for him.

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