UFC VP Marc Ratner on MMA judging controversy

source: fightersonlymagazine.co.uk

Dallas Winston:  The discontent regarding judging controversy in MMA is snowballing.   Please lend your opinion on the overall state of MMA judging?
Marc Ratner Judging needs to become more consistent.  This is still a new sport and its going to take time.  We are monitoring the scores of the judges to see who are doing the most consistent jobs.

DW:  What specific areas do you feel need improvement?

MR:  The toughest part of judging is the grappling and the ground game.  Judges have to concentrate and know what they are looking at.  In some parts of the country the judges don’t get enough work to become consistent. There also is a need for more workshops and seminars.

DW: The measurements in the unified rules for grappling are very tangible and identifiable, where the striking elements seem to be more open to personal opinion. Any thoughts on that observation?

MR:  The way I look at it is usually with striking -- and maybe this is from my boxing background -- but you can tell who's hurting the other guy.  In the Machida fight there was more kicking that perhaps wasn't taken into consideration.

I'm not talking only about the UFC, but there's a lot a guy can do from the guard, and that's why a background in grappling and Jiu Jitsu is important; to make sure you don't overlook the efforts of the fighter on the bottom.

DW:  Do you feel that takedowns being counted for effective grappling (one-half of top criteria), control (secondary criteria), and effective aggression (second to last) give the technique a lopsided value in the scoring guidelines?

MR:  Takedowns do show an element of control, but you have to advance your position once you’ve attained the takedown.  I personally look for effective aggression when watching the fights.

DW:  The use of monitors is another common suggestion.  Even though we've only had Doc Hamilton state on one occasion that his view was obstructed in a fight (Shogun vs. Machida 1) and the arenas have the big screens overhead, it definitely wouldn't hurt accuracy and/or consistency.  Your thoughts?

MR: Actually we've used them for the last three events in California.  We're still experimenting with that.  I don't want them to only look at the monitor, because that only gets you one view, but certainly when your view is obstructed they might be valuable.  Whether it's a cameraman, the ref, or a corner-post, there are several things that can obstruct the judges' line of sight.

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notsobigmike site profile image  

11/10/10 2:43 PM by notsobigmike

Also, I'd like to see UFC (and other major promotions) get more involved with critiquing the judging.In boxing, going into the main event, they will spend time talking about each judge, how many fights they've judged, how many significant/title fights they've judged, and any major or controversial fights they've scored.If a decision is bad, tell the audience who scored the fight for which guy, and which rounds. Tell people WHY the fight should have been scored differently, and which judges got it right or wrong.

notsobigmike site profile image  

11/10/10 2:39 PM by notsobigmike

I think the major factor is time.More than the rules, the criteria, the scoring system or anything else - incompetent judges are by far the biggest problem.It doesn't matter what scoring system you use; if judges don't know what they're watching, they aren't going score fights correctly.Over time, more and more out-of-touch judges will get phased out and more people with MMA experience will take their places. The wheels just move slowly on this kind of stuff.

Augie Max site profile image  

11/10/10 1:48 PM by Augie Max

DFW jr will be featured in the next episode of "Undercover Boss" on CBS interviewing his staff members and fighters as a FO Reporter.  That's a skit for the MMA Awards.

Crazy Zimmerman site profile image  

11/10/10 1:43 PM by Crazy Zimmerman

 Monitors are a vital tool for commentators.  Sometimes the action is across the cage and you have no way of telling what's going on.   Same must be true for judges. 

frontrowbrian site profile image  

11/10/10 1:41 PM by frontrowbrian

The action was on the ground almost 30 feet from his seat ..... he needed to look at the monitor to see submission attempts, strikes landing, everything that goes into scoring a fight on the ground   

CageSide site profile image  

11/10/10 1:29 PM by CageSide

 so, his view was obstructed 80% of the time, and he got a better feel for the fight looking down at a 10X10" monitor vs live? i am sure ratner would be pleased to know that.

john joe site profile image  

11/10/10 12:46 PM by john joe

^ pretty clever eh PTSandmanor should i say, Petey Sandman. Yeah, I know your real name

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11/10/10 12:23 PM by PTSandman

I didn't know "Dallas Winston" is an alias of Dana White.

Crazy Zimmerman site profile image  

11/10/10 12:20 PM by Crazy Zimmerman

 So now Dana White (DW) goes around interviewing HIS OWN EMPLOYEES?  And this is supposed to be a fair and balanced interview???? LMAO!!!!!! 

Calibur1980 site profile image  

11/10/10 11:59 AM by Calibur1980

Is it possible to find a UFC employee more biased on the subject than Marc Ratner?