Boxing vs. MMA debate hits UK for UFC 138



"The UFC is brilliant. The product is sensational, the packaging, there's no other sport doing it as well," one PTI UK co-host said.

However, the co-host was quite a bit less impressed with MMA as a whole, noting that the UFC only comes to the UK a couple times a year, and that non-UFC MMA shows leave a lot to be desired.

"Most mixed martial arts events take place and they're rubbish. They're garbage," he said.

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Radford Martel site profile image  

11/4/11 4:42 PM by Radford Martel

That last event from the big uk promotion where Alex Reid had a fixed fight for the main event was garbage, utter crap.Although there are sometimes good shows here in UK

notsometourist site profile image  

11/4/11 4:37 PM by notsometourist

<blockquote>victorpoprock - <blockquote>Tad Ghostal - <blockquote>victorpoprock - <blockquote>Andy the man - <br />Who gives a fuck about the US team, really?<br /><br />Amateur Boxers? Jesus broham! Eastern Europe is a HOTBED for amateur talent.<br /><br />Boxing does NOT revolve around America.<br /><br />Europe has a HUGE market for the sport.<br /><br />Look at the numbers that Klit bros are doing.<br /><br />Gamboa/Donaire/Rios/Khan<br /><br />Those are just a FEW of the big names that will keep Boxing going AND make people tune in due to their fan-friendly styles.</blockquote><br /><br /><br />Klitscho vs Haye had about 3 million people watch on HBO. That's not ppv, it's a pay cable channel in the US. To put into perspective, the UFC primetime show promoting the Cain vs Dos Santos fight had over 2 million viewers. It wasn't even the fight, just a show promoting the fight and it had almost as much views as Boxings HW championship bout. <br /><br />Also, tell me how old the Klit bros are....<br /><br />Vitali is freaking 40 and Wlad is 35. You are proving my point. Boxing's superstars are all old and there are no big name up and comers that the fans are excited to see.<br /><br /><blockquote>you are so very wrong there sir. there just aren't any american up and comers. but with fighters like Saul Alvarez, Yuriorkis Gamboa, and Rigondeaux, as well as some of the Ukrainian amateurs that will be turning pro after the 2012 Olympics, boxing is just dying in North America. All of the Americans who could be great fighters are playing football, boxing just isn't a sport of choice anymore.<br />

victorpoprock site profile image  

11/4/11 4:27 PM by victorpoprock

Who said anything about kimbo you tool bag? Do you think kimbo is the gold standard for mma stardom? What the help would make you even bring him up??Last I checked, kimbo was a boxer now anyway.

Idsmashit site profile image  

11/4/11 4:14 PM by Idsmashit

The lower level boxing shows are a joke also. Tyson Fury was on Channel 5 not long ago it looked like he fought in a pub against a bum. Isnt Fury close to the Klit brothers so he is nearly the top level.

notsometourist site profile image  

11/4/11 4:13 PM by notsometourist

He probably doesn't watch much of BAMMA or Rage Cage or KOTC. Those are all great promotions in the UK, sure they might not sell out 16,000 seat arenas but the fights themselves are fantastic. In reality mma will never be as popular in Britain as boxing and the reason is because of the lack of mainstream shows, like the UFC. If mma, and, by extension, the UFC, is to be bigger in Britain and be at least on par with boxing, a solid stable of fighters is what's needed. I think that the UFC should adopt this style: have fighters who only fight in Britain and mainland Europe, like 20-25 shows a year. Give them regional belts, e.g. UFC Europe Heavyweight Championship. Then do the same with Asia and South America, more shows due to larger land area, something like 40 events, and include Australia in with Asia, UFC Australasia and UFC South America with their own regional belts. And treat it like Strikeforce where the Champions of each region can challenge for the main UFC belts based on record and title reign. This model, I believe will build the UFC into a global brand.

stonepony site profile image  

11/4/11 4:07 PM by stonepony

You should check out the real numbers. I don't know about the PPV numbers in the UK, but you're not even close for the American/Canadian market. MMA has only been around for about a decade, and already holds 7 of the top 10 PPV records for North America. The couple boxing cards to make the list are from when Tyson was a super-start (just before Boxing went over the far side of the hill and started the decline).

stonepony site profile image  

11/4/11 4:00 PM by stonepony

"I don't agree for a simple reason"The real reason being that he's older and has been in to boxing for decades and doesn't want to believe it."UFC is a brand", is a cop-out. "There are no 11 year olds in MMA gyms", is pretty absurd. Kids aren't watching boxing and dreaming of becoming (whatever anonymous boxers there are anymore), they want to be Georges or Anderson.

Tad Ghostal site profile image  

11/4/11 3:56 PM by Tad Ghostal

Did you not read his post? That fight had more viewers worldwide than every Kimbo fight combined.

Tad Ghostal site profile image  

11/4/11 3:53 PM by Tad Ghostal

Buncey's right, just compare Bellator to something like Prizefighter (one night boxing tourney) or Friday Night Fights. Or how about Tachi Palace Fights, best 125 lbs fighters in the world and a dark, grainy stream is the best you can get.It's called UCMMA now and the last main event they had was a work with a reality tv star and a journeyman.

kingbisping site profile image  

11/4/11 3:45 PM by kingbisping

he is right has anyone tried watching BAMMA its cringe worthy so poorly done i dread to think how the smaller shows go on