Dana White on marijuana vs. TRT: 'Those are the f------ rules'

by Tom Ngo | source: http://www.5thround.com

Nick Diaz and Rampage Jackson both had medical prescriptions for substances that would be illegal without medical clearance. Yet Diaz is suspended and Rampage is not. UFC President Dana White recently comented on the seeming contradiction.

“My stance on the whole thing is, [marijuana's] not allowed,” said White. “Whatever the commission says you’re not allowed to do, you’re not allowed to do. It doesn’t matter what I think, you think or anybody else thinks – it’s illegal.

“Listen, I’d love to say something right now that makes Nick Diaz free and clear and ready to fight again, but I can’t. It’s illegal. The commission says you can’t do it leading up to a fight, you can’t have any traces of any drugs inside your body – you can’t do this, you can’t do that. Those are the f------rules.”

“Now on the flipside, [TRT] is legal. Testosterone Replacement Therapy is something that you can do, it’s for guys whose testosterone is too low. Here’s what you’re supposed to do, you’re supposed to get it back to the levels of a normal guy your age, and if you’re even that much over [holding his thumb and index finger about an inch apart], now it becomes illegal.

“So again, it’s based on what’s legal and what’s not legal. That is legal, marijuana is not legal. I actually think that [TRT is] good, obviously it’s bad for these guys who have abused steroids early on in their careers. That’s what’s so terrible. Amongst all these other things that you find out – what’s good and what’s bad about using steroids – is that these young, talented guys, who are full of testosterone already, go in and start abusing these drugs.

“Now when you get up to your late 20s, which should be your prime, early 30s, now you’re all screwed up. You’re off the steroids and now you’ve destroyed your system forever where that your body can’t produce testosterone. These guys now have the medicine where you can replace it, they get you back to normal levels.”

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4/6/12 1:16 AM by StrikeforceSupporter

I understand they are rules. But one needs to throw up a logical argument on why marijuana should be an illegal drug, and why alcohol and tobacco should be legal. On top of that, who are you or anyone to tell someone how to run their life if they are not affecting anyone else? If people smoke weed on their own time, and it does not affect anyone around them, then who is anyone else to tell them NO. Like I said up top there, If Diaz was high, during the fight, then he is affecting the company b/c he could seriously injure himself while fighting high as a kite, but they COULD NOT prove that he was high during the fight. They do not have a case on why it should be illegal, and why he should actually be suspended. Other than "it's the rules".... YEAH, BUT PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY IT IS THE RULES! If you cannot come up with a logical reason why, then, I am sorry, but you cannot dictate others lives; it is discriminatory and corrupt. And you cannot let one employee smoke weed, while the others have to "follow the rules."

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4/5/12 9:04 PM by leftlegtrumpcard

Damn, this is getting painful for me. U did say alcohol in reference to my work place. I did bring up reem in reference to other athletes and illegal drugs. U basically said to put alcohol on my list if weed is on there. I did...I said if weed was legalized I wouldn't care as long as it doesn't enter the workplace. Is that not the same as alcohol in that context? I understand ur view of him not being high on the job. The plain and simple of it is that he knew his contractual obligations and chose to ignore them. If Rogan had those obligations he would have to make a choice as well. If the rules were changed it would fine, but right now he should follow them. He deprives himself and the UFC of revenue, and fans are deprived of a great entertainer. I am afraid I am out of explanations for such a simple matter as contracts, rules, and regulations. We all have someone to answer to. That's life. Have a good one man, I'm out.

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4/5/12 8:36 PM by In Limbo

yeahhhhh mannnnnnnnnnn try to speak eloquently on an mma forum mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn  

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4/5/12 7:42 PM by StrikeforceSupporter

Hmmmm? I never said that you said anything about alcohol. I was just saying, that you need to implement the policy of not drinking any alcohol in your rule book, if you are going to bring up weed. I agree that fighters/other workforce employees should not be intoxicated ON THE JOB. But there was NO proof that diaz was intoxicated during his fight. And when you cannot prove it, then you cannot punish him. And I never said anything about Overeem, so I don't know why you added that one in at the end. Do you guys test for Nyquil, and prescription pharmaceutical drugs as well?

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4/5/12 7:38 PM by UGCTT_Fillthy

please delete. thanks.

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4/5/12 7:36 PM by StrikeforceSupporter

I was just talking about the left (the right is a whole other story). Their beliefs are....The govt needs to take care of everything. Who will make gay marriage legal???? The govt, right? And if I am not mistaken, for most of the 20th century, democrat politicians have involved us in foreign wars. Democrats believe in spreading democracy world-wide, and policing the world with government intervention. Trust me, democrats LOVE govt. I think you are placing stereotypes, by putting the label of a democrat wearing Birkenstocks and a tie-die t-shirt. You do know the democrats were the one's who owned slaves, right?

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4/5/12 7:16 PM by liukangstoupee

So Dana should be responsible for his fighters to know what the legal limits are for restricted substances, what banned substances they need to avoid, and what type of medical exemptions they have available?Wow, why don't you just say Dana should act as their father.The rules are there as clear as day, and fighters (or have access to) have the literacy to read and understand the rules. It doesn't get any more sensible.

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4/5/12 6:56 PM by leftlegtrumpcard

I knew u didn't speak-a-da-English!!! I didn't say anything about alcohol. I said it didn't matter to me if they legalize weed or not, as long as it doesn't enter my workplace. I do agree that they should be more respectful of those using medical marijuana legally (nick Diaz). On the other hand, until the rules and regs change, they should be followed. People who refuse to follow a given rule set will only hamper their lives. Diaz will lose out on money, as will overeem. Action and reaction my friend.

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4/5/12 6:37 PM by deadlyonetwo3

 WHOA DANA!!!! COME AT ME BRA!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha. I can't agree with some of the people in here actually insinuating that Dana should try to do something about the legality of marijuana haha. Granted, he can try to influence change in terms of the commissions having more viable tests and changing some of their rules... but why should he spend his money on that?  I do think that the UFC can try and petition for the commissions to consider certain issues a little further.  For example, Diaz was clearly not high in any way during the Condit fight, and in fact only tested positive for metabolites.  Should that require punishment?  Then again, if T/E ratios are over 6:1, it suggests test use no different than metabolites suggests marijuana use, (which is deemed a performance-enhancing drug, however ridiculous that is...) hence the punishments should be similar, no?  It's an interesting debate.  My stance is simple.  Weed is not performance enhancing, it's as ridiculous as testing for NICOTINE. lol. Test is performance-enhancing, and should be banned to shit. TRT actually seems like a very healthy thing and a great thing, but it HAS to be done properly and athletes CAN'T BE ABUSING that and going over the normal levels.  So Dana, were you going to go ahead and spend your money on getting weed legalized?  For the fighters, of course! (I am kidding)

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4/5/12 6:35 PM by UGCTT_Fillthy

No one is arguing that DFW/Zuffa should advocate for MJ legalization, only that they should advocate for sensible and clear rules regarding prohibited substances and intoxicants...And I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you regarding the Fleshlight.