Munoz: TRT is cheating

source: MMAinterviews.TV

"It's cheating. I think it's cheating. I think anything that's synthetic that you put in your body is cheating. Get it from food, get it from training. That stuff jacks you up when you're done. For me, I'm a family man, I have kids, I have a wife and I want to be there for them at the end. I think when you take PEDs or anything like that, it cuts your life short. When it becomes like that, it's almost hedonistic. It's not a sport anymore. It becomes more than a sport and it shouldn't be like that.

There's more important things in your life than that. I frown upon that, I don't like to ever see it but the truth is it is present. You can't hide it because it comes out. But then again I can stand in front of you 100-percent saying that I've never taken a drug in my life. And I'm going to keep doing that, and I'm going to win like that. If people think I'm on drugs or PEDs or whatever, come train with me. I'll show you my drugs. There's no substitution for hard work."

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Phil999 site profile image  

4/12/12 12:32 PM by Phil999

I didn't listen to the vid but was he talking about TRT or PED's in general. the title says TRT but the text of his comments does not.Journalists love to twist facts with their headlines.

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4/12/12 12:28 PM by Phil999


Twenty47 site profile image  

4/12/12 12:16 PM by Twenty47

I see so many posts about how it's such a small percentage of guys that need trt and even smaller for athletes. Do you know how many people are on trt in this country that you would never know about? These crazy statistics are never by endos

DRevan site profile image  

4/12/12 11:32 AM by DRevan

EXACTLY.While everyone else has to deal with the ups and down of their T levels through hard training, specific diet, fatigue etc. The Sonnen's get to go into the fight at MAX levels, and they get to recover faster and train harder through camp. That's BEST case..and that's a huge advantage ie cheating.What is likely however is that they are cycling and spiking levels to gain an even greater advantage through the training phase.Given that legitimate need for TRT in the GENERAL population is statistically insignificant, and the odds that an elite athlete suffering from low T that THEY are NOT the cause of (through steroid abuse) are even lower. TRT should be banned from MMA altogether, given that in, say a 10 year period..2-3 guys MAX would be unable to compete due to low T, is completely acceptable given the headaches that allowing TRT causes.

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4/12/12 11:25 AM by Lite

I have three problems with TRT.First and least, low testosterone isn't leukemia or something where you are definitely sick. Doctors and drug companies did tests and crunched numbers and decided on what is a normal range, making all the outliers suddenly in need of medical care.But much more importantly, we don't know that guys like Sonnen have low testosterone. That's not independently verified. They have found a doctor, someone cashing their checks, willing to say they have low testosterone.Which leads to my last point. I am pretty sure that they aren't taking treatments to raise their test to average levels. Far more likely, they are getting their test raised to optimum levels, the highest measure allowed. (And of course, that's assuming they aren't cycling to even higher levels between fights.) To me, that's cheating.

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4/9/12 12:04 PM by HELWIG

 " have pro fights so here's a question for you. Have you ever used aspirin, ibuprofen, etc., when you are fighting or training?" Ive never competed while taking any banned substance according to the rules I agree to compete under. Thats the bottom line. In you want to play word games and say "coffee is a drug" and all that modern jazz, thats fine.

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4/9/12 11:58 AM by HELWIG

"So by our logic it is ok if you didn't do it to yourself? Most people with low t don't get it from steroid use. I understand that this is the reason that many pro athletes have it, but overall that's far from the norm."Nobody cares if someone who isnt in a sport needs TRT. By all means, thats between you and your doctors.But to be taking money away from someone else, competing clean, and in MMA's case, doing them bodily harm while in an enhanced state due to drugs, is bullshit."I guess most people on here think that if you get lung cancer, it's ok to get it treated as long as you didn't cause it yourself by smoking. Great logic! Phone Post "Actually a better example would be should you give a liver transplant to someone who ruined their liver over 30 years of boozing, or give it to someone who has a genetic condition?In my example, other people are affected by the decision to give a person a certain treatment. In yours it would just be about punishing them.If someone's T is so low they need synthetic test, then they have bigger problems than professional cage fighting.

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4/9/12 11:50 AM by Chaz Johnson

No doctor is going to give out HGH and Test on top of each other. Also no doctor is going to give a propianate out. You'd be given a bottle of Test. Maybe a bottle of DECA for joints and functioning. HGH would be sold as a separate treatment that dealt with hormone replacement. Both used to treat TRT but pointless to stack together. Also someone said it's different from steroids. LOL no it is steroids made by the same companies that make all your other medicines. Watson, etc.... they all make synthetic steroids. I took my shot last night and all I can tell you is TRT still comes from the same steroid bottles you see on your little warning commercials etc.

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4/9/12 11:23 AM by JJitsu

Isnt TRT for normal people under 40 usually for people with that hypergonad syndrome or something? Wich is like one of your balls didnt drop as a kid? Step#1 get on TRT = Cypionate Step#2 get on Growth Hormone from one of those online fountain of youth doctors since they don't test for it. Step#3 stack Propianate for the first 5-6 weeks to get really jacked, it leaves your body quick so you have to take a couple of those injections a week but once you stop it'll leave your system fast. You've just done a nice little cycle before your fight and your not a cheater because your test levels within range at the fight.... Yeah...not a cheater...

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4/9/12 9:55 AM by zedlepln

That seems to be the consensus, which should make you wonder how Munoz would revise his thinking to allow manufactured supplements and drugs. Certainly the whole "it's bad because it's not natural" is just goofy in so many contexts. Most likely his opinion was an impulse reaction and not very well thought out to logical consequences.