Rogan: The work fighters do is going to break s---

by Stephie Daniels | source:

One of the critical problems in MMA is injuries during training. In the last 18 months, perhaps a majority fo major fights have been cancelled or postponed due to injury. In an interview with the ever awesome Stephie Daniels, the ever awesome Joe Rogan discusses possible reasons, and comes to a final, difficult conclusion.

Stephie Daniels: I recently saw an interview with NCAA wrestling champion, Bubba Jenkins, that stated he felt that steroid use could be directly correlated with some of the injuries. Do you feel that might be a significant contributing factor?

Joe Rogan: It's certainly possible, but... it's speculation, unless you're in the camps, but people have gotten caught for steroids, so we know steroids are really used. I think to speculate on why guys are getting injured in a sport where the main goal is to injure people is a little bit pointless.

I don't know how Randy Couture ever got through his career without getting seriously injured in a training camp, but someone should talk to him [laughs]. Someone should ask him, 'What are you doing? Are you doing yoga or stretching? Are you just training smarter than everybody else?'

Obviously, he's an incredibly tough guy, period. Obviously, he's an incredibly intelligent guy, as well. Whatever he did to ensure that his training camps were injury free, is something that should be studied. Randy was one of the greatest fighters of all time, and I can't recall him ever getting injured in training.

What is causing all this stuff? Probably a variety of different things. There's a lot of speculation. Mike Russell once sent me something and asked me what I thought, but it was a statement by someone who's an insider, whose take on it was that people are training more than their bodies can manage, because so many people are on the sauce, that they have a distorted perception of what's possible, and that what these injuries are, is people who are clean, trying to keep up with people who are on the sauce.

Stephie Daniels: I know you work out and train pretty hard at 10th Planet. How do you keep yourself fairly injury free?

Joe Rogan: I don't stay injury free, not at all. I was actually off for four whole months with a serious back injury. I pulled a muscle... a couple of times, and then it became sort of a chronic thing, where it would pop out every few months. One time, I tried to work through it, so instead of taking some time off, I trained anyway, and I really pulled it bad, to the point where I had numbness in my hand and some severe nerve pain in my elbow.

I've also had both my knees reconstructed. I've had two ACL surgeries and another meniscus surgery. I've had my nose fixed, because my nose was completely smooshed inside, and it was just all useless, due to a deviated septum, and I couldn't breathe out of my nose. It's not like I'm injury free, even at my level of training, which is considerably less than it would take to even compete in an amateur MMA fight.

These guys are doing five, six days a week. Georges St. Pierre works out seven days a week. So, five, six days a week, and many hours a day. The amount of work that these fighters do is just going to break s---. There's no way around it. It's hard, except if you're Randy Couture. [laughs]

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Senseandrew site profile image  

6/15/12 3:32 PM by Senseandrew

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that there is one singular cause to an increase in injuries.Lots of good ideas floating around here, maybe it is "a little of this and a little of that."MMALOGIC, Kanodogg, Neil Funk, and Foos are probably all right to some degree.

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6/15/12 3:31 PM by goku

is the bourdain episode on the podcast? i cant seem to find it

KJ Gould site profile image  

6/15/12 3:18 PM by KJ Gould

Shields vs GSP, April 2011.Coincidentally, the last time GSP fought :)

bhealthy site profile image  

6/15/12 2:45 PM by bhealthy

juicers overtrain and always have.look at eric kumrie and ed macafree's leg snaps."the nightmare of steroids" by tommy chakin

DamnSevern site profile image  

6/15/12 2:36 PM by DamnSevern

 When was the last "point fighting sparring exhibition" you paid 62.60 for?

Foos site profile image  

6/15/12 2:24 PM by Foos

I don't have the stats in front of me, but I'm guessing we're just perceiving there to be more injuries because there's far more fights booked these days.

bhealthy site profile image  

6/15/12 2:04 PM by bhealthy

roids make you even more paranoid about how hard possible opponents may be training and they also make you heal faster and feel like a beast so you can overtrain more frequently.

Tap In site profile image  

6/15/12 1:12 PM by Tap In

Ok, thanks for the response! Just sayin, people like me probably see his pic and want to listen, but can't so give up and don't go back. Maybe put in the archive "coming soon" or something. You obviously know what you're doing, just a suggestion to make it a tad more user friendly =)

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6/15/12 1:08 PM by Crooklyn

1.  I recorded with him Tuesday because that was what his schedule allowed for.We run our shows on Mondays and Thursdays so it went up on Thursday. 2.  I do not put up archives on my site until all my writing for Bloody Elbow is complete. That means tomorrow, when the final segment of the written article is done, I will post the archive.

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6/15/12 1:01 PM by Tap In

 Your website is mad confusing. So you recorded it tuesday, I had to wait till thursday to hear it "live" and came in when he was talking about hippy shit, and now a day later he is on your front page but can't find the recording anywhere? Not in archives, can't click the picture.