More important: 1st openly gay UFC fighter or 1st female UFC fighter?


In his Twitter mailbag this week, MMAJunkie's Ben Fowlkes was asked which was the more important aspect of Ronda Rousey vs. Liz Carmouche headlining  UFC 157 - Ronda Rousey being the first female UFC fighter or Liz Carmouche being the first openly gay UFC fighter?

"They both represent pretty giant leaps for the UFC," said Fowlkes. "But let's be honest here and admit that in American sports culture – particularly in contact sports, like MMA – there's a big difference between attitudes toward lesbian women and attitudes toward gay men. That's not to say it's no big deal for Carmouche to be the first openly homosexual fighter to compete in the UFC – it is. But I have a feeling that many of the same fans who have zero problem with seeing a lesbian compete in a UFC main event would not feel quite so comfortable watching a gay man headline a pay-per-view. There just isn't that same stigma attached to homosexuality in many women's sports. If anything, a lot of people are ready to assume that a successful female athlete is a lesbian, whereas male athletes still use the mere accusation of homosexuality as a sort of nuclear option against each other.

"That attitude toward male homosexuality in sports is stupid and embarrassing and bigoted, and it has to change. I think it will change, eventually. I really hope we get to a point where we only care how well someone can fight, and not who they'll be grinding on after too many drinks at the after-party. Sadly, I don't think we're there yet. I think MMA in particular still has a lot of fans who hold bigoted attitudes toward gay men, which is a damn shame. Maybe Carmouche can begin to change some minds there. My suspicion is that there are more people willing to get worked up over the fact that two women are taking the main event spot (dry those tears, Dan Henderson fans) than the fact that one of them is a lesbian. Maybe that's a good thing. Once those people get used to the idea that sexual orientation has nothing to do with how good a fighter someone is, maybe they'll think it's no big deal when the UFC has an openly gay male fighter. I hope so."

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r_o_y site profile image  

12/23/12 10:43 AM by r_o_y

A few gay characters on a few tv shows is "littered"?Lol

ufcman187 site profile image  

12/22/12 12:13 PM by ufcman187

Put an openly gay male fighter in against Cyborg. That's entertainment !

mikerobmma site profile image  

12/21/12 4:24 PM by mikerobmma


thatsme site profile image  

12/21/12 3:00 PM by thatsme

I don't have any respect for anyone who throws throws their sex life in everyone's face.The paradox is that gays are the first ones to tell you to keep your nose out of their sex lives, yet they are the first ones to put their sex lives in your face.

56sav site profile image  

12/21/12 2:39 PM by 56sav

What exactly is there to celebrate about a gay in MMA?

AvoidantMan site profile image  

12/21/12 1:19 PM by AvoidantMan

so because she eats pussy , she should be celebrated? I dont get it. Everybody applaud her because she puts her mouth on vagina!

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12/21/12 1:17 PM by Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku

cmon now...carmouche is not the first gay fighter in the ufc

undisputed1972 site profile image  

12/21/12 1:17 PM by undisputed1972

Fucking hell, the homo agenda has got it's claws everywhere hasn't it? TV and cinema is littered with gays and their propaganda, now we're being pushed to accept this perversion via the UFC now.

john_d1974 site profile image  

12/21/12 1:15 PM by john_d1974

"there's a big difference between attitudes toward lesbian women and attitudes toward gay men."and rightly so!

Beezulbubba site profile image  

12/21/12 12:39 PM by Beezulbubba

Being the first women's title fight is both huge news and great news, especially with Dana sharing his thoughts about it the past few years. It's good he gave it a chance. Being the first gay fighter is about as shattering as being the first straight fighter. Has no bearing whatsoever in the mainstream concerns of 98% of people. And is no different then being a straight fighter.