Judge defends decision in Guida vs. Hioki, despite FB friend status

by Kirik Jenness |
 

Judging in MMA is thankless. No fighter or fan ever thought they won due to poor judging, but when a close decision goes the other way...

Clay Guida's split decision over Hatsu Hioki last weekend at UFC on FOX 6 raised some eyebrows.

Among the detractors was UFC president Dana White.

Pedro Alforque III ‏@palfor03
Hioki got robbed. Guida didn't do s--- on top position.

Dana White ‏@danawhite
I agree

An article was recently published noting that one judge, Gabriel Sabaitis, scored all three rounds for Guida, and is a fellow Illinois native and is Facebook friends with Guida.

The friendly nature of the sport and the ubiquity of social networks is such that it is impossible to have judges with no connection what so ever to a fighter. Athletic Commissions have procedures in place if an assigned judge feels there could be some bias, but being friends on Facebook does not in itself meet the standard for impropriety.

I have 5,000 friends on Facebook, and have judged, reffed, and fought a number of them. That is not unusual in our sport, or cause for alarm.

Sabaitis is a long time member of the UG, and explained his decision.

"I felt all 3 rnds were real close. Guida has an awkward style to score. I felt his aggression and TD out weighed (barely) Hioki's effective striking in the 1st. I also marginally gave him rnds 2&3...barely. But there's no half point scoring in MMA! There's 3 Judges for a reason. If both Judges gave it 29-28 Hioki and I gave it 30-27 Guida, then YES!! I am the new Cecil Peoples! But one DIDN'T!! And he's one of the most experienced Judges in the business!! He had it 29-28 Guida!! So that means he agrees with me more than the other Judge!! But this fight was so close it could've been 29-28 Hioki, no doubt. I respect everyone who believes Hioki won. I'm an open minded Judge, but I stand by my decision and it was made by using The MMA Judging Criteria NOT favoritism! My brother could be fighting and still wouldn't give him an undeserved decision!!!"

 


The Judge Who Scored Guida vs. Hioki 30-27 Is Also Clay's Facebook 'Friend'
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Matt Molgaard
(Featured Columnist) on January 29, 2013

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Gabriel's Friends, Clay Included

Ever wonder what an athletic commission considers a conflict of interest?

It’s a question running amok in my brain as I type and mull over last weekend’s featherweight bout between Clay Guida and Hatsu Hioki.

Guida took home a split decision nod over Hioki after three tough rounds.

The bout was certainly a closely contested match. But by the 10-point must system in which the UFC abides, it’s relatively easy to understand how Clay Guida exited the cage victorious, despite being out-struck by a tally of 74-40 (according to Fightmetric) and having half of his takedown attempts thwarted.

Clay obtained and secured top position for extended stretches of the fight, and regardless of how active a fighter is or isn’t from his back, the common misconception among uninformed judges is that the man on top is winning the fight by default.

Fair enough, I’m not outraged by the outcome, despite having scored the fight in Hioki’s favor by one point. I can understand why Guida was afforded the win, whether I agree with it or not, and I’m not out to slight Guida or his in-cage efforts.

However, one must wonder: at what point does an athletic commission, or those assigned the task of overseeing a MMA event, examine the deeper relationships between appointed judges and the fighters whose fights they score?

Both Gabriel Sabaitis (the judge who scored the bout a clean sweep, 30-27 in Guida’s favor) and Clay Guida are Illinois representatives. Fair enough, UFC on FOX 6 was hosted by the United Center in Chicago, Illinois. It’s not baffling to know that the Chicago Sports Commission would employ the services of a local judge.

But the relationship between Guida and Sabaitis stretches a bit more. See, Sabaitis and Guida are also “Facebook friends.” Big deal, you ask? Maybe, maybe not.

From a neutral stance, it seems a bit questionable that a man assigned the task of judging two fights on one card would just so happen to draw a bout featuring a hometown favorite. It also seems a bit questionable that no one would question the depth of Sabaitis and Guida’s relationship, given their online status as acquaintances.

Does Gabriel really know Clay? It’s tough to say. For all we know, the two may have never shared any communication other than a “friend accept” in the vast expanse of the interwebs. But if a commission aims to ensure fair judging, it seems as though a hint of research might ensue prior to assigning judges specific tasks.

Questionable situations such as the one we currently eye could easily be avoided with a few Google searches.

Standing here, on the outside looking in, I'm forced to admit that appointing Gabriel Sabaitis as one of three judges set to score Clay Guida’s fight looks a little suspect. Sabaitis’ questionable scoring (again, a reminder that Gabriel was the only judge who seemed to feel Hatsu Hioki didn’t do enough to secure a single round) only raises further question marks and eyebrows.

Did Gabriel give Hatsu a fair shake? Furthermore, did the commission afford Hatsu a fair shake?

I’m not here to accuse anyone of misconduct. Don’t misconstrue this piece. This is about raising awareness in regards to the judging system (and not just in Chicago) worldwide. Fighters invest every ounce of their being in the sport, the preparation for competition, competition itself and every subplot of the assignment (i.e., press, travel, public appearances, etc.) in between. I think they certainly deserve to have an unbiased eye overseeing their work in the cage.

The question now becomes this: did Hatsu Hioki receive three pairs of unbiased eyes to judge his bout with Clay Guida, or only two?

For the record, all information revealed in this article, including the image, are publicly available. If you’ve got a Facebook page, you can view Gabriel’s page publicly, and you can view his friends as well. You’ll spot Clay in the lineup, and if he happens to disappear in the wake of this release, well, you’ve got an attached image that proves the two are FB buddies.

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Arecsa site profile image  

2/1/13 10:19 AM by Arecsa

Very fucking interesting. His justification for the scoring was bullshit too. Biased/corrupt for sure.

UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA site profile image  

2/1/13 9:24 AM by UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA

Probably not. I do hope that he reads this one and the other one and takes the criticism to heart.    Sure the crowd was cheering for Guida, and sure he is his "friend" on facebook, but shit like this ruins other fighters livelyhood. It's horseshit. 

ranier wolfcastle site profile image  

2/1/13 8:57 AM by ranier wolfcastle

will this thread get the judge fired?

PersianMMA site profile image  

2/1/13 4:32 AM by PersianMMA

With that attitude and I am sitting on a white horse thinking of course he doesn't give a shit if the hole world thinks he is biased. "i have 5000 FB friends" Why dont you shove up those friends up your ass.In fotboll no one would have accepted this game. Or even in a court of law. Of course he is biased. He should never be allowed to judge again. You will see as the sport grows more demands will be coming from non US fighters that the judges are from mixed countries.

Hardstaff site profile image  

1/31/13 6:53 PM by Hardstaff

Bring in Pride Judgeing.1. Effort to finish the fight - Hoki2. Danamge - Hoki3. Control - Guida4. Aggressiveness - Guida1 and 2 out weight 3 and 4, easy decison for HokiGuida was fighitng not to lose, Hoki to win

ChaosOverkill site profile image  

1/31/13 1:45 AM by ChaosOverkill

Whether my thread was seen by someone at B/R and it cause more investigation or not, I'm glad to have contributed to some rallying here.   And even if Gabriel is guilty of something here I will give him some credit for making some sort of statement, the rest probably just sit in a room with Keith Kizer and laugh and make out with their money with boxing people.

Walnuts site profile image  

1/31/13 1:21 AM by Walnuts

God I hate spineless cover-up motherfuckers.

ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh site profile image  

1/31/13 12:55 AM by ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh

There's some truth to this. If judges knew they were gonna get a back reputation for fucking up then I'm sure they'd try a lot harder to learn about what they're watching. There's no accoutability in MMA judging really

6ULDV8 site profile image  

1/31/13 12:52 AM by 6ULDV8

Judges should have to answer for their scoring moreso than they do.     Usually it's just 'the judging' when they fuck up and no one goes after them personally.  If not for this thread I never would have known this dude's name.   Until they're not so anonymous, we're going to continue to have fucked up judging.

Reed Rothchild site profile image  

1/31/13 12:38 AM by Reed Rothchild

Fuck Me



 

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