Changes proposed to NSAC for TRT, marijuana policy


21 March 2013 • The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) held a public meeting today under the direction of executive director is Keith Kizer, to discuss drug testing protocols, notably Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUE) for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

Damon Martin reports.

Current standards by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) allow for testosterone levels to reach a 4:1 ratio in testosterone to epitestosterone in a normal male athlete. The average for a normal functioning male is a 1:1 ratio. The NSAC allows up to a 6:1 ratio, but is considering the lower figure, as well as an additional, more expensive step, the carbon isotope test (CIR), that looks to see if the additional testosterone in the body is being produced naturally or by an outside product like synthetic testosterone or a performance enhancing drug.

There was a proposal to conduct a study of a wide range of fighters either past or going forward to determine what a "normal" level of testosterone ratio would be.

The commission plans to rerturn to the issue at their next meeting and have further discussions on the possibility of changing the legal ratios from 6:1 down to the WADA-recognized level of 4:1.

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PEDs were not the sole topic on the agenda.

Current UFC Vice President of Regulatory Affairs and former Executive Director of the NSAC Marc Ratner addressed the NSAC and asked for a reexamination of the rules on marijuana.

"Society is changing, it's a different world now than when I was on the commission," said Ratner.  "States are legalizing marijuana and it's becoming more and more of a problem with fighters testing positive and the metabolites."

"I think it's something that has to be discussed on a commission level now. Right now I just cannot believe that a performance enhancing drug and marijuana can be treated the same.  It just doesn't make sense to the world anymore and it's something that has to be brought up."

So what do you think UG? More rules for PEDs and less for pot? Legalize everything? Things are fine, no changes necessary?


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Chromium site profile image  

3/22/13 5:23 PM by Chromium

One problem with marijuana tests and that it's more complicated than simply raising the limit is that passing the threshold of 50 ng/mL for marijuana metabolites (THC-COOH) can be wildly different depending on the individual and how much of a stoner they are in their off-time. If they are a Matt Riddle-level stoner then they may actually be accumulating THC-COOH in their body fat faster than they can get rid of it, so even after training a month where they've raised their metabolism and started to reduce their metabolite levels, if they stop smoking then it could take them another month or more to get below 50 ng/mL. Meanwhile someone who rarely smokes could smoke a joint 3-4 days out and still pass their test. Basically, usually the people that test positive might have stopped quite some time in advance but they happen to be chronic stoners. They could raise the limit to 400 ng/mL and someone who is a chronic stoner might test positive even if they stopped like 5 days out, while someone who rarely has THC in their system could smoke a blunt after breakfast and still likely pass a test in the evening. What they should be testing for is active intoxication, either via saliva or blood. I'm not sure if a saliva test is applicable here, but at the very least, fighters should have the option of requesting a blood test instead of a urine test for marijuana usage, to just make sure that they're not lit going into the fight.

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3/22/13 4:08 PM by Bentleysuper8

I'm no scientist but if a normal athlete has a whatever ratio of 1:1, why the fuck would 4:1 be acceptable, let alone 6:1? I have no idea what the relation of testosterone to epitestosterone means but 4:1 seems to me to be NOT normal.

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3/22/13 3:48 PM by whoabro


willienugget site profile image  

3/22/13 2:44 PM by willienugget

Didn't mean to suggest Lavar had blood drawn. The corrolation was that they didn't proceed with an extensive and expensive test until after the preliminary one was flagged. Failing a urine test for marijuana metabolites shouldn't be proof of guilt, but an indicator that a more extensive test is necessary. Of course taking a blood sample by this time would be too late so they should already have it.

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3/22/13 2:39 PM by willienugget

I think Dan's suggestion would be a positive step, but I'm not sure raising the allowable levels would be the best way to go. I think that might create as many problems as it solves.If the sole issue is money, I suggest something similar to what they did with Lavar's testing procedure for testosterone. First they should take a blood and urine sample. They should use the piss test as a preliminary indicator of a possible failure because this first test only checks for inactive compound. This doesn't prove guilt but is enough evidence to go ahead and spend the extra coin testing for the real deal via a blood sample which they alread have. This will prove whether they were high in the cage or not.Keep in mind that someone like Diaz or Riddle might still fail a blood test if they smoked the day before, but not ten to twenty days.Police have no problem spending the money to help keep our roads safe. States differ but Nevada (and soon to be Colorado) has a limit of 5n/ml in blood. They don't even do a urine test because they know it is unfair to test for something that is not impeding their ability to drive.

JerodR site profile image  

3/22/13 2:09 PM by JerodR

That is just it.. Would things go down hill because people wouldn't be able to take it, or are people taking it because it is a legal way to gain advantage...?

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3/22/13 2:07 PM by Zed Wayne Zed

That's great news.If you've abused the hell out of something and now have to use something else to play ball with guys who have always kept a clean game and never cheated, then screw you.No one is EVER stronger than when they were naturally given.Let's hope they follow through with this, and more AC's get on board.

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3/22/13 2:05 PM by willienugget

I'm becoming increasingly discouraged to come here recently. All everyone seems to want is some TMZ type bullshit. This is an important topic and can't get to page two by day two. But Canada might be protecting Georges by allowing him to be .9 overweight?!? Holy crap it's a conspiracy!!

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3/22/13 11:10 AM by KingofBJJ

It would be great to have someone fight stoned? Jeez why not allow them to drink a few forties or shots of Tequila while you are at it?

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3/22/13 10:34 AM by onandon

"I think it's something that has to be discussed on a commission level now. Right now I just cannot believe that a performance enhancing drug and marijuana can be treated the same.  It just doesn't make sense to the world anymore and it's something that has to be brought up." I'm happy about this, the fact they even target marijuana anymore is ridiculous.