'Off the record' weigh in rules change at UFC 158?

 

The convention in mixed martial arts is to allow a one pound weight allowance for all fights, EXCEPT title bouts, where the fighters must make the numbered weight.

A video recently surfaced, taken shorlty before the UFC 158 weigh in, in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Senior Vice President of Business and Legal Affairs and Assistant General Counsel for the UFC Michael Mersh conveys news from the Quebec AC to Nick Diaz and his camp that things were going to be a little different at the UFC 158 weigh in.

.9 of a pound different.

Mersch comes up to Diaz and shakes his hand. The audio is inaudible at points, but most of the dialogue is clear.

"Here, they're going to allow you and Georges to have an extra hour," Mersch says. "Just in case somebody doesn't make it."

"But the good news is, they don't count the decimal. If you're 170.2 it's 170. If it's 170.9. it's 170."

A member of the Diaz camp responds, asking "why didn't we know that before?"

Mersch continues.

"Should be fine, hopefully, other than that. Just so you guys are in the loop, if there's …"

Again, a member of the Diaz camps responds, asking "why didn't you tell us that yesterday?"

Mersch continues.

"Well, no," he says. "It's just something to keep in mind. That's kind of an off the record type of thing. But keep that in mind. As long as he's under 171, we should be good.

"But, there is a time period afterwards, for you and Georges only. All the other fighters have to make it the first time. Just letting you guys be in the loop, okay?"

"Good luck."

A member of the Diaz camp quips, "that's a loophole... A Canadian loophole."


Michel Hamelin, director of the Regie des Alcools des Courses et des Jeux (Quebec AC), and representative Joyce Trembley both said that this has always been a rule in Quebec, and no rules were tweaked to favor GSP.

"I'll tell you this," said Hamelin. "The one thing we always do is respect our rules."

Trembley reiterated that no changes were made, and provided further detail.

"Currently, the Régie does take into consideration the maximum weight determined by contract when it carries out the weight-ins before a bout," wrote Trembley to B/R. "However, our regulation on combat sports does not take decimals into account. Their consideration is a question of interpretation likely to be debated between the two parties under contract."

In sum, the Quebec AC , unlike most commissions, does not consider decimal points in determining weight.

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Darth Ryase site profile image  

3/27/13 11:29 AM by Darth Ryase

I would love to see that. Interesting how certain people are against it and claim fighters would go to more drastic measures to lose the weight and it would negatively affect their performance. Isn't that the whole idea? If you kill yourself to cut weight and then get starched in the first round, maybe you should fight at a more natural weight.

Raezor19 site profile image  

3/27/13 11:13 AM by Raezor19

I know it's Nate, but why the extra hour to make weight ? I thought this was protocol ? The whole shitstorm on the UG is that you could weigh over when the truth is they have 1 hour, they just didn't announce it. Maybe because no one was over ?

HexRei site profile image  

3/27/13 11:10 AM by HexRei

First, that's Nate. Second, he did cut the weight without needing any decimal rounding.

Raezor19 site profile image  

3/27/13 10:53 AM by Raezor19

  Nate Diaz must have missed the memo that there is no one pound allowance for championship fights. That's because the Stockton slugger rebelled against the scale tonight (Dec. 7, 2012) at the UFC on Fox 5 weigh-ins at the KeyArena in Seattle, Washington, weighing in at 155.6 pounds for his lightweight showdown against Ben Henderson. The problem, of course, is that the limit for a title fight in this weight class is 155-pounds. And not one ounce over. Upon coming in with a little extra baggage, Diaz was informed by UFC President Dana White he would have to cut the extra weight, a comment that brought forth a chuckle and brush of the shoulders. After all, it's 0.6 pounds we're talking about here. Diaz actually thought a simple trip to the bathroom would get him down to the 155-pound limit but after using the facilities, he weighed in a second time at 155.2. Still not official, folks. The good news is Diaz has another hour or so to get rid of that pesky extra sweat. If he fails to drop the extra weight, he'll forfeit a portion of his purse and tomorrow night's main event will no longer have a belt on the line

willienugget site profile image  

3/27/13 6:48 AM by willienugget

No shit. The day of the weigh-in he's told that him and George get an extra pound and an extra hour to make weight. The .9 thing might be on him but not the hour that only him and GSP were given. As it turned out, GSP didn't need the hour so it's a non issue but still shady that it was available.For comparison: Condit and Hendricks had to weigh 171.9 on their first and only attempt. GSP and Diaz had to weigh 170.9 by one hour after first attempt.The only outcome of this should be universal protocol for weigh-ins everywhere UFC goes.

madmav site profile image  

3/27/13 6:22 AM by madmav

time for the ug to call out dana.. pulling the video just shows the ufc has something to hide.. lol

Macedawgg site profile image  

3/27/13 3:20 AM by Macedawgg

Anyone happen to save a copy of this video somewhere?

Letibleu site profile image  

3/26/13 7:36 PM by Letibleu

So you are saying GSP is well endowed?

thestaton site profile image  

3/26/13 7:31 PM by thestaton

Why is the UFC pulling the video due to copyright claim? What in that video do they own? How can they own video off a someone's private camera, filming guys sitting in the seats before a weigh-in?1LB is a big deal. I remember when Diego Sanchez missed the mark by a LB. He tried to cut the weight during the time allowance, showed up on fight day looking like hell. That's Diego YES Sanchez. A true cardio machine / professional. The fact that the contract states 170LB, and Quebec cornermen have chimed in saying there is no .9 allowance makes this very shady. It's well known GSP was sick, and NO his thin little shorts would not have been a LB. IMO the fight is a no contest. I don't care if Diaz gets a rematch, but the fight should be ruled a no contest. Furthermore Quebec should be put on notice. This is blatant cheating for the home town hero. And I do now question the post fight drug test. This screams of cover up.

JimmersonzGlove site profile image  

3/26/13 7:14 PM by JimmersonzGlove

If this was revealed to the Diaz camp like the video shows...they should've had one of their guys looking at the scale when GSP was on it.



 

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