Sonnen will be on TRT for Rua bout


Whether you are in favor or oppose testesterone replace therapy (TRT), it is still widely accepted by most athletic commmissions. In an interview with, Chael Sonnen acknowledged that it has been approved for his August 17th bout with Mauricio Rua in the main event of the UFC on FOX Sports 1 debut:

Following your first fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 117, you had a few problems with the California State Athletic Commission with regard to your use of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Have you had any issues with the Massachussetts commission?

That got accepted on the record. They had a meeting. But, I never broke a rule anywhere. In California, they said that your T to E ratio [testosterone to epitestosterone] was high. Well it was! I was on testosterone. That gap is your ratio. All that tells you is what they already knew, that I was on testosterone. They didn’t understand their own test. They go, “No, your levels are way too high, you’re 17 to 1.” It’s like, guys, I could be 1700 to 1, I’m still within the legal limit. You don’t understand your own test. So they give me six months [suspension] instead of a year. The referee that night is now in prison and that executive director is back home in Washington state and has been fired. But these are the guys that I’m working with. This is what you get when you deal with government.

So I sit before the six person commission, doesn’t know their own rules, and anytime I say that I feel like I’m being condescending. But here’s the reality: They don’t know their own rules. I can go one by one and say what’s on page three. It says right there that testosterone is legal. You brought me in here for taking a legal substance called testosterone. Page three of your rules says its legal, what am I doing here? Oh we didn’t know, we didn’t see page three. So you kind of sit there and scratch your head. It’s the blind leading the blind. So what do I do? I can take them to court and sue them, but now I’ve got to sit out. I don’t get my license back until the court case is over. So they really got you and it’s very inappropriate.

But it’s not just the boxing and wrestling commissions that does this, we see this in all walks with government. We are seeing this with the government officials in New York that aren’t legalizing it. Look, if you don’t want to legalize, then just don’t. But don’t come out and lie about why you’re not. There was a woman that came out, a state senator in New York, that said a UFC commentator had made unflattering remarks towards women, so they will not be legalizing that anytime soon. I’m sitting there going, when did that become the litmus test? So if I find an employee with Coca-Cola that made an unflattering comment, you’d take Coca-Cola out of your city? Do you realize how insane that is? What a violation of First Amendment rights, how overstepping that is. But these are the same people that eventually advance to Washington, D.C., that oversee our health care, our Social Security, our children’s education, what they have for lunch, national defense – these are the same knuckleheads.

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Rambo John J site profile image  

7/25/13 10:43 PM by Rambo John J

trtis this bannable?TRT

chawkins site profile image  

7/24/13 6:50 PM by chawkins

If they can find a state whose athletic commission is OK with giving Vitor a TRT exemption despite his previous failed test for hydroxytestosterone, yes.I'm guessing their best bet is Texas.

RockMeAmadeus site profile image  

7/24/13 6:39 PM by RockMeAmadeus

Can Vitor even fight in America or is he stuck in Brazil for the rest of his fighting career?

chawkins site profile image  

7/24/13 6:10 PM by chawkins

Specifically what has Chael said that you don't believe?The bit about his ratios causing the failed test is a matter of record, so sure, I feel OK believing that.The only thing Chael has said that I can think of as debatable is that he notified Kizer of his TRT usage. Like I said, Kizer says it didn't happen, Chael says it did.So, you're saying you believe Kizer?

4thHorsemen site profile image  

7/24/13 6:01 PM by 4thHorsemen

lol @ thisThis guy's eats up everything Chael serves no matter what it is. What a load of crap.

chawkins site profile image  

7/24/13 3:02 PM by chawkins

OK. I realize that sensible talk doesn't typically have a place here, but let's do this. :)FRAT ALERT!That's certainly one solution, but if we ban TRT - and I'm talking about legitimate TRT here, juicing is a different problem - then we're opening the door for a very interesting conversation about what physical ailments it's OK for a fighter to fix, and what aren't.Is it OK for a fighter who blows his knee to get it rebuilt back to normal?Is it OK for a diabetic fighter to use insulin to regulate his blood glucose back to normal?Is it OK for an asthmatic fighter to use an albuterol inhaler to keep his lung function normal?I don't think anyone with any sense would answer "no" to these questions. Why then, are we so quick to answer "no" when the question is "Is it OK for a fighter with below-normal levels of testosterone to use TRT to restore his hormones to normal?"I'll tell you why: potential for abuse. A fighter's repaired knee, regulated blood sugar, or properly-functioning lungs aren't going to be improved to the point where there's any perception of an unfair advantage. But we know that supraphysiological levels of testosterone *can* confer certain advantages (although, if you look at fight results, it doesn't seem like TRT is helping anybody except Vitor win fights, even if it does extend their career).So, how do we solve this problem? Well, you proposed banning TRT altogether. But there's another solution - a solution that, according to the UFC, is already in place; out-of-competition monitoring.Supposedly guys who are on TRT are being subjected to a high level of scrutiny to make sure that their hormone levels never go to suprephysiological levels, even between fights, while they're under contract.This monitoring effectively limits TRT use to the same therapeutic standard as the above-mentioned examples of repaired knees, regulated blood glucose, and asthmatic lungs. And really, isn't that what we all want? For a guy to be able to get himself restored to normal condition - not supraphysiological condition - and be able to keep fighting?A ban is just one solution. And it's a radical one, because it says to a fighter "if anything on your body breaks, you're allowed to get medical treatment to get it fixed...unless it's your male hormone production, then you're just fucked and have to retire". That's nonsensical.That may fix the problem of guys juicing and claiming TRT, but it doesn't make a lot of sense when we have alternatives that can keep guys fighting, and fighting fairly.

Rambo John J site profile image  

7/24/13 2:49 PM by Rambo John J

actually Sonnen is favorite.Him being allowed TRT would probably make him more of a favorite.But he is a master at crumbling mentally, so his "condition" and its treatment will not matter as Rua finishes him like a Hammerfisted Madman.Money to be made on Rua. IMO

JimmersonzGlove site profile image  

7/24/13 2:28 PM by JimmersonzGlove

Is this a 3 or 5 round fight?

goocher site profile image  

7/24/13 2:05 PM by goocher

I wonder if the betting odds will be a little closer now that the bird is out of the cage.

Jetster site profile image  

7/24/13 1:59 PM by Jetster

Real simple...lots of Clownpunchers on here, losers, live with mommy, this is a great site just weed out the trash and there is a lot.