White: Fights with s#!* talk always suck


The UFC on FOX 8 co-main event, Rory MacDonald vs. Jake Ellenberger featured lively trash talk leading up to it, but in the opinion of many was underwhelming when it came time to actually fight.

UFC president Dana White was characteristically blunt.

"When you get these fights where guys talk s---, those fights always suck," said White of the bout. "I think that for Ellenberger to go out and say he doesn't deserve to be in the top-10 and then not go out and try to prove that he doesn't belong in the top-10...Ellenberger literally did nothing.

"And in my opinion, Rory didn't do anything to try and finish him and put a stamp on it and make a statement, not only to the world, but to the guys that are in the division."

"He went out and bulled B.J. because he knew he could. He didn't try to bully Ellenberger. Don't come in and say my fight was great and technical and I belong in the top-10 and all this s---, and don't go in there and try to perform. I don't think he performed. I don't think he did anything. He threw a few jabs and some front kicks.

"I don't think he moves down the ladder, but do you think anybody's screaming to see him fight again? Unfortunately, we live in a business where you're as good as your last fight. That kid's in a tough enough position as it is. He trains in Georges St-Pierre's hometown, where he trains, and everything is Georges St-Pierre this, Georges St-Pierre that, and the kid has to walk around and say he doesn't want to fight Georges St-Pierre when we all f---ing know he wants to fight Georges St-Pierre. But why would he go beating his chest saying he wants to fight Georges St-Pierre when that fight isn't even close to happening yet.

"But tonight was the night. Tonight was an important night that everybody was excited for, and yes, I understand that sometimes you know you're fighting somebody dangerous. F---ing Ellenberger just sat there f----ing two feet away from me and said, 'That wasn't me tonight, I wasn't myself.' So if you're Rory, and you're that f----ing good and talented, then you imposed your will on him and show the rest of the world, not only do I belong in the top-five, I should be fighting Georges St-Pierre."

"You don't want to put on a bunch of performances like that. It's not good for anybody. It's not good for him, it's not good for us, it's not good for the sport. Not good for FOX. Definitely not good for pay-per-view."

"Lorenzo texted me and said, 'This is terrible.' I texted him back and said, 'Ellenberger's freezing. He froze tonight. I don't know why, but he did. And when he froze, Rory did nothing."

MacDonald offered a defense, saying he took what was offered - which turned out to be a jab.

"I think I did exactly what I was supposed to do," said MacDonald. "I kept up my end, and he's a counter-puncher, and a very powerful puncher. I was waiting for my opportunities."

The bout was booed loudly during the second half, but 'Ares' said he wasn't paying attention.

As for the boos that showered the cage, the 24-year-old fighter said he wasn't paying attention.

"I was focused on the task at hand, and I was waiting for the knockout to come," said MacDonald. "I was being patient. I think I did the right thing. I wasn't rushing in like a fool or an amateur fighter. Sometimes, knockouts take a little bit of time. You've got to let it happen. I wasn't forcing anything. Unfortunately, I ran out of time."

Ellenberger however expressed nothing but regret.

"It just wasn't my night," he said. "I didn't pull the trigger. I really have nothing to add. I'll leave it at that.

"I respect the fact that so much strategy goes into a fight. Rory's been very respectful to me. But like I said, I'm just very disappointed in myself."

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PermitMeFisticuffsBrother site profile image  

7/30/13 7:23 AM by PermitMeFisticuffsBrother

Good call Cerrone vs Diaz Overeem vs Bigfoot Belfort vs Anderson Silva Feijao vs Thiago Silva

Bucephalus site profile image  

7/30/13 12:37 AM by Bucephalus

His only two fights against top ten fighters (Condit and Ellenberger) demonstrated two things:When things aren't going his way, he folds . When they are going his way, he is fine with just 'getting by'.The kid has the whole "air of confidence" thing down pat... but he doesn't have the true heart of a champion.

time traveling 12er site profile image  

7/29/13 10:49 PM by time traveling 12er

Unskilled slug fests are just as bad, they just happen to be shorter so it doesn't seem as bad. What people want to see is two skilled fighters trying to beat each other using the skills they have. Not two guys trying to win on points. There's no sport where people want to see athletes just cruise and do just enough to ensure victory. If ellenberger was being super defensive or winging great counterstrikes or something it would make sense for Rory to just sit on his jab. But Ellenberger just froze and barely did anything. If you're the better fighter prove it. But the other guy down. All Rory proved is that he'll do nothing but eek by if he's ahead.

hogh20 site profile image  

7/29/13 4:32 PM by hogh20

How about saying screw the Of the NIght bonuses and give the guys huge finish bonuses? Instead of 20 to show 20 to win, give them 20 to show and 20 to finish?

Chulio site profile image  

7/29/13 3:53 PM by Chulio

I see both sides. it is as much about marketing as it is fighting.That was a boring fightChael talks his way into a fight and gets his ass kicked and that is a good fight, is it?People would rather see guys with shitty records and lots of blood.We have seen 5 times the amount of time looking at the semi-nude pics of Ronda than we will ever see her fight.As far as which type of fight is right I am interested in knowing who's opinions are from fighters vs fans. I like both it just depends.When Condit frustrated Diaz I enjoyed it, but when a wrestler L&P's and looks like he is ready to pin the guy then remembers its MMA it sucksWhat the F do I know anyway

TheLuckyMilkMan site profile image  

7/29/13 2:52 PM by TheLuckyMilkMan

btw i havent seen the fight and it takes a whole whole lot to get me to boo anything.

TheLuckyMilkMan site profile image  

7/29/13 2:51 PM by TheLuckyMilkMan

Very interesting. The general idea sounds good. I think they would give a bonus to someone who did these things already but to lay it out like that would encourage it even more... then I think about guys that know they are in great shape setting up to lose rounds only to try and come back later in the fight... still interesting concept.Anderson shows us both sides of the coin we are talking about... very boring or very exciting and careless. He, and others, will have to find a good middle ground that will allow them to make a good living and be liked/promoted as an exciting fighter and also score wins on paper. This sport will not exist without exciting fights.

Sprawl'n'Stall site profile image  

7/29/13 1:22 PM by Sprawl'n'Stall

Now that is one way to do it.And we were all hyped for this fight so the letdown was more steep. But to my knowledge, it's the first boring fight from these two guys. So let's not crucify them just yet.What did bug me was how happy Zahabi was after the fight. Dude was besides himself. Adjust the rules and fighters - and coaches - will adjust too.

Huey Freeman site profile image  

7/29/13 12:53 PM by Huey Freeman

Maybe that was a part of the boxing game,But that was the reason we all got into mma because it was real and exciting.This is turning into a bag of shit, we need to get some rules in place to stop point fighting.

flipmode site profile image  

7/29/13 11:27 AM by flipmode

All I hear are excuses.GO IN THERE AND BANG BRO!