Brandon Vera: If TRT ok for one, should be okay for all

 

Brandon Vera fights Ben Rothwell at UFC 164 on Saturday, and was asked to comment on 'Big' Ben's use of Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

Vera is not a fan of Therapeutic Use Exemption, as he believes many fighters' testosterone levels falls below the normal 300 nanograms per deciliter during a grueling camp.

"I think the whole thing with TRT, I understand it, but if it's good for one, it should be good for all," said Vera. "I don’t know how that scaling goes or what the testosterone level is and stuff. I know my testosterone level during one camp was at 250, but I think you eat up all your testosterone during camp if you're training two or three times a day."

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shaqitup site profile image  

8/29/13 6:02 PM by shaqitup

The acceptable limits aren't the average though, they're a broad range above the average. Isn't the average 1:1, but anything within 6:1 is acceptable. That's a litlte bit of an advantage imo.

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8/29/13 5:58 PM by Zekolas

Read my post, if you are in a hard camp training 2-3x per day no way your testosterone will be in a "Natural Range" of 800-1000. The hard exercise will drop it to 200.But if you go on TRT you can keep it 800-1000 through your entire camp, train harder, heal faster and get an unfair advantage.

CRMartin11 site profile image  

8/29/13 4:51 PM by CRMartin11

Vera is using fallacious logic.The ONLY reason TRT use is legal is because there are fighters who have low testosterone. They are legally allowed to use TRT to get their testosterone levels to what athletic commission's deem healthy and natural. Brandon Vera is trying to oversimplify the situation.

InTheWeedz site profile image  

8/29/13 4:37 PM by InTheWeedz

Brandon Vera should shutup, and just be happy we haven't fired him yet... for someone that talks as big a game as he did... he's done acsolutely nothing... be happy to be employed Vera... because if you lose this saturday to Rothwell... I'm passing a post-it note to my boss Dana...

bhealthy site profile image  

8/29/13 4:03 PM by bhealthy

roid induced paranoia prevents adequate recovery in the steroid era this was forseen by wise trainers at least 40 years ago

bhealthy site profile image  

8/29/13 4:03 PM by bhealthy

roid induced paranoia prevents adequate recovery in the steroid era this was forseen by wise trainers at least 40 years ago

bhealthy site profile image  

8/29/13 4:03 PM by bhealthy

roid induced paranoia prevents adequate recovery in the steroid era this was forseen by wise trainers at least 40 years ago

Zekolas site profile image  

8/29/13 10:47 AM by Zekolas

BshMstr is right the issue is this. Lets say Brandon Vera's normal test is 800 when he is not in training camp and just training 4x a week with rest days.   However once he is a 2 weeks into his training camp, training 3X a day it will fall to 250, this will happen to all athleates.   However if you get a TRT exemption through your training camp you can keep your test levels at 800 what is a "normal" level but not "normal" for someone training 2-3X per day.    

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8/29/13 10:40 AM by Zekolas

Here is a simple explanation what is probably only half right but the basics are true When you body produces Testosterone it also produces Epitestosterone at the same rate so normally your TE ration is 1:1 or maybe 1.5:1 once you reach adult hood. However when you take steroids or synthetic testosterone it rases your Testosterone but your Epitestosterone stays the same thus your TE ration goes up to 4:1 or 16:1. So your TE ratio does not mean you have elevated test only that you are taking sythetic test. So when they measure your testorone they measure it by ng/dl (nanograms per decilitre) and the normal range is approx 350-1000 depending on age. Meaning a healthy 20 year old man may have 800 and a TE ratio of 1:1 meaning he is taking no steroid. However someone may be on TRT and come in at 375 (low end of normal) but have a TE ratio of 10:1 as his body is not producing much natural test. So TE ratio does not say anything if your test is above "Normal" levels just if there is sythetic test in your system. My whole problem with TRT is this. If your just working out once a day, eating healthy with rest days lets say your test is 600. If you go through a grueling training camp working out 2-3x per day for weeks on end your test will fall to a low range. This is natural it does not mean your naturally low on test. However if you get a TRT exemption you can keep your test levels at a 800 range what is still "Normal" even while training 2-3x per day what is not normal. So I agree, all fighters should be granted a TRT exemption if they can show their test levels go low during a training camp; what  happens to everyone.

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8/29/13 10:32 AM by colubrid1

Proven fact on how to get TRT from doctor for anyone.Work out really hard the night before a blood test. then that night drink 4 beers.The next morning drink one beer.You test levels will be super low and you can get trt.



 

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