White: I wanted Fedor so f@$%ing bad


Last week, former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko revealed to WHOA! TV that he felt the reason he never was fought in the UFC was because UFC president Dana White didn't like him.

"In my opinion, everything was in Dana White's hands,' says Emelianenko. "Because at that moment, I just felt like 'this guy, he just hates us.' Like, personally to me. There were insults coming from Dana White all the time. There were many very loud things said, but for real nothing happened. It was all talk."

UFC president Dana White was asked about the remarks at a media event on Thursday.

"Me and Lorenzo were f---ing laughing about that," said White. "Yeah so I hated him. Who did I hate worse than Tito? The guy lost f--king 100 fights in a row and retired in the UFC.

"We made every big fight with every fighter since we bought this company. You don't think we wanted to do Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar? I f---ing wanted to make that fight so bad."

"Brock wanted that fight. Brock wanted that fight bad."

"We had to build a f--king stadium in Russia, and we had to do all this stupid s---, stuff that no normal f--king human being would do. And now they lay in bed every night and regret not doing that deal."

"I explained this to Fedor. ‘We're catching a moment in time, right here, right now, where this fight between you and Brock Lesnar will be f---ing massive. We're talking Dallas, Texas Stadium. This huge fight between these two big heavyweight guys. We're laying this massive f---ing offer on the table.' I said, ‘You're one punch away from being worth f---ing zero.'

"'This is the f---ing moment, the time. We all need to seize this moment and make this f---ing happen.'"

"It's not even that I regret it. Dude, when I tell you that we did everything... someday I'll tell you the story of how much we offered that f---er, too. People will f---ng s---. It made no sense. It's one of those type of deals.

"The NFL does $9 billion in television revenue. Makes no sense for the network. The network doesn't make a dime off the NFL, but you gotta have the NFL, right? The NFL pulls ratings like anything. This was one of those deals where it's like, this makes no f---ing sense whatsoever. And literally when we got on the plane, when we were flying back, we were like, ‘Thank f---ing God they turned that offer down.'"

White has for many years been adamant that the MMA G.O.A.T. is Anderson Silva, but he was asked if Fedor was the best in the world of his time?

"Maybe he was," said White. "Maybe he was when he was fighting in Pride. Maybe he was. I don't know, because we never got to make some of the fights we wanted to make.

"Who knows. Maybe Fedor knocks out Brock, because we saw Brock against guys that hit hard. And that's probably what (Fedor and manager Vadim Finkelstein) look at it now. Like, ‘Goddamn.'"

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10/19/13 7:13 PM by MisterHawkeMMA

I really REALLY hate all these dumb asses constantly saying that "it wasn't about the money". It was about the money. Or do you think they were demanding co-promotion to make less money? Do you think they forced renegotiation with a more respectful owner (Coker) because they didn't care about money? Shit, when asked about the $30 mil that is rumored to be on the table, Vadim said himself that if that was true, that they would've signed.

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10/19/13 7:10 PM by role model

Its unfortunate that Dana handles every situation by spitting venom. Not gating but its true."When your only tool is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail'Had his diplomacy been better we could have seen some incredible matchups

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10/19/13 6:59 PM by MisterHawkeMMA

Because as soon as that number comes out, every fighter that is way more accomplished than Fedor will want a raise.

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10/19/13 6:30 PM by effinggoof

Fedor's success cannot be measured by Dana Whites yardstick.Fedor retired wealthy, went into politics, hangs out with Putin (the most powerful man in the world), does celebrity endorsements and has a prominent position in the Russian MMA world.

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10/19/13 5:43 PM by ajl416az

he got paid well but nothing like what he demanded and nothing like what the UFC was offeringhe thought he had more leverage then he did, tried to strongarm the UFC into wild demands, and lost out

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10/19/13 5:15 PM by Tilla

@ Fox - Great Job, Bro. You got him! ;-)Fedor is the Greatest. End of.

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10/19/13 4:15 PM by Fox censored my Chael screen name

"I think over time, people will not know about Fedor b/c of their age, and the majority 50 years from now will think whoever is the top guy 50 years from now is the Goat, so I will ignore my own history that I have witnessed and just be a hipster in advance".   That's what it feels like. You are an mma fan, act like it. Take honor in what you know, don't twist it to sound cool or hipster.

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10/19/13 3:39 PM by Fox censored my Chael screen name

Regarding Anderson Silva- Lol, I am VERY anxious to understand your logic of "too many questions" regarding Fedor, but yet Anderson has nothing "questionable" about his Goat legacy.   Fedor's worse loss compared to Anderson's-Advantage is Fedor Fedor fighting for the #1 mma promotion and having freedom to fight outside of that promotion vs Anderson fighting for the #1 mma promotion and being a b-level fighter but then fighting for the new #1 mma promotion only fighting guys under that promotion-Advantage is Fedor   Streak-Fedor's streak is Far more impressive than Anderson's. It was against heavyweights, it was against super heavyweights, it was longer.   Anderson Silva is 6'2 made his legacy at 185lbs, has said his walk around weight is 215-220lbs. Fedor is 5'11 233lbs and made his legacy fighting at heavyweight.   Anderson didn't fight "everyone". For one in 2007 he didn't face Matt Lindland, but that isn't his fault. Fedor fought "everyone" and if you think otherwise, I am more than happy to go further into that as well.   Anderson fought "everyone" that was offered at 185lbs. Fedor fought guys from 200lbs to over 350lbs. Fedor took out K1 champions(plural), Olympic medalists(plural), multiple UFC hw champions(plural).  Now if Fedor fought the same guys Anderson did, there's no doubt his highlight reel would be even more brutal. Fedor became champion by beating the man who gave Anderson Silva his black belt......twice.....in a fight that took place mostly on the ground.   Further more....I have more to add but I'll hold off as I feel I've given you enough as it is.   PS-ironically while debating with time traveling 12er, I'm watching back to the future part 3 with my kiddos.   PSS-If I seem "too into this debate", it's for valid reason.  #1, of my 20 plus years of following the sport daily, the biggest gripe I have is when people not named Dana White try to discredit Fedor. To make it worse, I have respect for time traveling 12er b/c he usually has sound logic and explains himself very well. In this particular debate, he is all over the place making arguments that are so weak I wonder if time traveling 12er has a sibling at his house speaking on his behalf. This is not the sound logical 12er that I know.

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10/19/13 3:24 PM by Fox censored my Chael screen name

#2-Fail #3-"To be a goat, there has to be few questions".  Under YOUR own very logic, you cannot have Anderson as Goat, or anyone for that matter, because there are "too many questions". That is such a weak argument man, so weak that you are losing some credability with me bro.  Some say Muhammad Ali was great, some say Sugar Ray Robinson, some say Marciano. You would contradict your own logic by saying none of these guys are great because there is too many "questions", however you would then pick one of them as the "goat", IGNORING your own logic about the questions of that particular Goat choice.-FAIL   #4-I asked you to name a fight that was "in question" regarding Fedor's, and you name NONE. Weak sauce bro, and at this point in time you HAVE to know you are dealing with someone who is seeing your obvious weak arguments so you should back off on this weak angle. But again, if you feel there is some substance to this angle, proceed to NAME the fight or fights of Fedor's that are in question, and explain what makes it questionable.   The weak angles and points you're attempting to make tell me that instead of using logic, you're using stubborn hard headedness. I hope you see the error of your ways, but I doubt you will and assume you will continue making very weak points.    #5-Fedor is incredibly famous, especially when he doesn't speak English, very rare when he does, he was NEVER marketed by UFC, yet professional fighters, the CURRENT UFC HW Champion, Mike Tyson, Bas Rutten, people who had great success in the same industry, all say that Fedor is the Goat.  There has been nothing to say that he won't be remembered.  I just watched a documentary on Sugar Ray Robinson. This was a boxer over 60 years ago that is still relevent. He had no where near the publicity of boxers today, but for some reason you think Fedor will be forgotten about. HA!.   New point courtesy of Much Respect-Under "Time Traveling 12ers" logic, by not fighting for Don King or Bob Arum, two of the most famous and biggest promoters in history, nobody can be conisdered great if they didn't fight for them.  Matter of fact, under YOUR logic, Floyd Mayweather is just a chump nobody because he doesn't fight for Don King, he fights for himself.  Do you see how incredibly ignorant you sound judging a man who fights other men, by saying "well when he fought those guys the promotion wasn't a promotion that I like as much as another promotion".  Man dude, really?

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10/19/13 2:38 PM by time traveling 12er

1# I listed Anderson Silva2# In general it's a bad comparison to do team vs single sport but I listed the specific aspects why they're similar and those specific aspects are independent of whether it's a team sport or not. It wasn't a diss btw. Russell was the GOAT in that sport till Jordan came along. Lots of old school fans still have him as the goat. But like Fedor there are enough questions that make it hard to say he's the undisputed goat of basketball despite all his achievements. Russell has a stronger argument for GOAT than Fedor does.3# I said Anderson Silva arguably has that title. It doesn't even matter if I think there is an undisputed GOAT somewhere. I don't see it like a 10 point must system, as a ranking spot that must be filled. If there are 10 people that can challenge that spot convincingly, then that sport does not have an undisputed GOAT. There are 10 candidates for that position that can all be argued. 4# Prides issues cloud the legitimacy of everything that happened there. Reportedly paying guys to lose or to fight in certain ways. It's the same as say a baseball player playing in the roid era. Everyone in that era now has a cloud of suspicion around them regardless if they specifically were caught or not. 5# Perception is reality. You really think Fedor's legend and fame will grow when no one runs tape of him and he never fought in the UFC? I should have made it more clear that I"m not mentioning this as a reason why Fedor shouldn't be goat. I was mentioning it to point out why I think in the future less and less people will consider him GOAT. It's like if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? A majority of modern fans have probably only seen Pride in clips or re-runs if at all. It's the ABA to the NBA. Do you think his legend is going to grow? Why? Day by day his relevance to the sport trickles away. 6# Anderson Silva. I think he's arguably had the better career and has less questions attached to his legacy than Fedor does. I think he fought everyone who even came close to challenging them and I think he beat them in more convincing fashion than Fedor did his opponents.