Should Cain vs. JDS have been stopped earlier?


Herb Dean is inarguably one of the greatest MMA refs ever; his extraordinary skill and judgement in allowing a fighter every chance to win were on full display Saturday night until he finally stopped it in the fifth. Ringside physicians likewise were given multiple chances to stop the fight, both by Dean and in between rounds.

However, UFC president Dana White would have rather seen it stopped earlier.

"That fight should've been stopped in the third," White said later.

"I'm a guy who's been around the sport for a long time, and boxing, and seen men who are too tough for their own good. And I think Junior Dos Santos is one of those guys, in the last Cain fight and in this Cain fight. And I think that fight should've been stopped. I just don't think he needed to take anymore punishment."

"I wanted to throw in the towel."

"If you watch that third round again when he's getting hit, his arms are [out]. He's not defending himself, he doesn't have his hands up. He's out."

"There's no need for a young, talented guy to take that kind of punishment when he's out on his feet. I was kinda hoping somebody was going to throw the towel in or the ref would come stop it, or the doctor was going to stop it. One eye was closed, and the other was cut wide open. He was hurt.

"I don't want this to come out the wrong way, but I'm a believer. I always like to say that if anybody in his f---ing corner cares about him, please, throw in that towel. I thought the fight was done in the third round. Is Junior Dos Santos tough enough and does he have the heart to go through it? Yeah, but does that mean he should? If you look at the fight, it ended in the fifth. That guy took seven, eight minutes more punishment that he didn't need to take until it ended. That seven or eight minutes, I don't know man. I just, I don't like it."

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Michael Chase site profile image  

10/21/13 3:01 PM by Michael Chase

Gotta side with this. JDS was way more in this fight than the 2nd one - he posed a huge threat at every moment right up until the end.

cycklops site profile image  

10/21/13 2:31 PM by cycklops

OK cuntbag, so it's JDS can take punishment. lol @ you You're that stat guy. You know all the percentages for each fighter. You know who and when they fought. You know how many jabs/kicks/ takedowns they all have. You should be proud of yourself.   It's a conversation. There should just be friendly banter back and forth, but you apparently don't get it.

CaptChaos site profile image  

10/20/13 5:38 PM by CaptChaos

Not quite sure why you're so angry? It's a chat forum. We discuss things.No one has mentioned his hands down style. It's worked for him up to this point but its become a liability. If it was that obvious Then why has the 2nd best HW on the planet not fixed this problem?

Blazing Knees site profile image  

10/20/13 5:27 PM by Blazing Knees

Nelson has very poor defense and eats tons of shots. The only one who could get away with it was Silva in his prime

The Legendary One site profile image  

10/20/13 5:13 PM by The Legendary One

No JDS still had power in his punches in the 5th and was still dangerous the entire time unlike the last fight. However, JDS should never fight Cain again cause I just don't wanna see that beating on such a nice guy like JDS. I would much rather see Cain do that to Jones.

KingofBJJ site profile image  

10/20/13 4:59 PM by KingofBJJ

CaptChaos - Junior has always kept his hands down. This style really hurts him when he's getting hit a lot. ----------------------- No shit Sherlock.  Seriously are there anything but freaking teens and pre-teens on this board?

Greenup site profile image  

10/20/13 3:21 PM by Greenup


wpipes site profile image  

10/20/13 2:43 PM by wpipes

Herb Dean was perfect. Reality is even in the 5th jds was one shot away from finishing Cain. He was still dangerous. If jds no longer presented a threat and was taking unnecessary punishment. Then ok. But he was very 'in' that fight

maantren site profile image  

10/20/13 2:37 PM by maantren

It's a difficult question for me because obviously no one wants fighters getting brain damage etc. And MMA has always prided itself on putting fighter safety first. Having said that, this is the HW championship of the world, with two amazing, experienced fighters who both have the ability to come back from deep trouble. To me, in a fight like this, the ref should act pretty much exactly as Herb Dean did.

CaptChaos site profile image  

10/20/13 1:28 PM by CaptChaos

Junior has always kept his hands down. This style really hurts him when he's getting hit a lot. Tito did a great job of holding his hands/arms up to cover his face when he would get hit with shots... Ala Chuck and Vitor. Remember when Chuck Finally finished Tito in their 1st fight? Tito had his hands up high and 1 of Chucks big straight rights Finally got through the defense and dropped him. Junior, on the other hand, always keeps his hands down and arms by his sides. This is a really bad habit. If he would have covered up he would have received less damage.There are a bunch of guys that cover up well... Roy Nelson may have the best chin in the game and he covers up well, Lauzon does this well, etc...