Baszler: Catch wrestling was the beginning of it all


WMMA pioneer and TUF 18 cast member Shayna Baszler recently sat down with Dave Meltzer for a wide-ranging interview. The Josh Barnett protege has also trained extensively with Billy Robinson, who in turn trained alongside Karl Gotch at Billy Riley's legendary Snake Pit in Wigan, England. Baszler is in fact certified in Catch Wrestling under Robinson, and 14 of her 15 career wins have been by way of submission, including her unorthodox "Schwing."

In the interview the Queen of Spades talked about her love for Catch Wrestling.

"Training with Billy Robinson is just like any martial artist who would go to the old master of the art," said Baszler. "He's so knowledgeable. He's an old guy now. His body is beat up from doing catch wrestling and pro wrestling. He can't get on the mat with you. But I'll never forget it.

"I was at one of his seminars and he literally told me a different place to put my thumb and it changed a move from having a 50/50 chance of working to a 90 percent chance of working. Just my thumb, not body positioning or anything. The experience he brings, the knowledge he has of grappling, there's not many people left from his generation who did catch wrestling. I love the history of catch wrestling.

"The martial artist in me is bummed because there are so many moves that are based on people not wanting to get pinned that are lost because of the guard in MMA. I love that pure wrestling, and catch wrestling was the beginning of it all. He's the most knowledgeable person in the world about the art of catch wrestling alive today."

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Happiness Bunny site profile image  

11/7/13 1:58 PM by Happiness Bunny

Exactly. I always say that some caveman could have kneebaaahd another caveman and called his style or technique "UGHHH!!"Submissions have a really cool history. Roots in India, Greece, Russia ect dating back waaaayyyyy before any of the modernized grappling styles. Most Catch guys who I am in contact with have respect for other grappling styles and never really put them down. Bjj'ers seem to get really defensive and adopt the "If it's not Scottish it's CRAP!" attitude.. just replace Scottish with Bjj.Sorry had to work in that quote some how.. good snl skit.

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11/7/13 1:50 PM by Happiness Bunny

if you ever come out to Vancouver you should come and train with us, friend =]Our coach shows us why and how things became illegal in freestyle.. for instance we learned why the Schultz headlock was banned from competition. It hurts!! Didn't Hughes tap Almeda it?

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11/6/13 7:17 PM by homieCNTRL

There's an old school catch guy that comes and train at my gym, he's been training with tony cecchine for about 20 years. Those catch wrestler have some real sneaky moves, most of which hurt like a mother fucker. But its definitely cool being able to throw in some crazy catch moved at a bjj tourney

bhealthy site profile image  

11/6/13 5:42 PM by bhealthy

can you imagine how awesome the next UGPP would be if we all chipped in 2 euros for every one of these catch vs. bjj threads??? it could be billed as "UG Team Catch vs. UG BJJ" it would attract UG legends like wolfman and BSRIZPACi dont think it would end these arhguments but damn it would be FUN! count me IN to 'fight' for team catch alldaycheers.

Telamon site profile image  

11/6/13 3:06 PM by Telamon

These threads always end up a battle between BJJ and catch. One is always claiming to be the "original" sub Wrestling is one of the oldest sports in the world and you just have to look at art from Babylon or greece from thousands of years ago to see that grappling has always had these subs. Some haven't changed.

Res Non Verba site profile image  

11/6/13 2:55 PM by Res Non Verba

I bet you do.

SpartanFightClub site profile image  

11/6/13 2:17 PM by SpartanFightClub

Look, i think you got my point. Rules makes style, but all the free/folks wrestling came from cacc.I'm a cacc'er, i think i know a things or two about cacc ;-)

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11/6/13 4:10 AM by Happiness Bunny

Can't forget about my man Dan McLeod.. he worked as a miner near my hometown. He beat burns.. The first Canadian to hold the Heavyweight title as far as I know.Forgot to add this:,711542Really cool old article on the original D.C.

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11/6/13 4:01 AM by Happiness Bunny

Evan Lewis was the man who perfected the RNC. They did not call him "The Strangler" for nothing =]He was choking people out in the 1800's. He was beaten by Farmer Burns.. another bad-ass. was before pro-wrestling was fixed. Really interesting history to it. I saw a movie once on it and I have not been able to find it online.

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11/6/13 1:39 AM by NKcell

Actually functional???Any kind of neck crank, double wrist lock, ankle/foot/knee sub and all variations were being done in catch long before BJJ buddy.