Gracie would be interested to see no rules in UFC


The UFC Royce Gracie started fighting in had no rules, no rounds, and no time limits and Gracie would like to see the UFC return to those roots:

“No gloves, no time limit, no weight division – that would be very interesting,” Gracie said. “The game changes a lot. The strategy changes a lot. It’s a different strategy.”

Of course, that’s not likely to happen any time soon. With FOX currently airing the sport in the U.S. and new global television partners routinely coming on board, what once was spectacle has now become sport, and the days of “no-holds barred” are long gone. While Gracie may long for those early days, he admits the new form of the sport has done pretty well so far.

“Kids grow up and say, ‘One day I want to be a basketball player. One day I want to be a football player or a soccer player,’” Gracie said. “Now they say, ‘One day, I want to be a UFC fighter.’ You know its mainstream now.”

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georgejonesjr site profile image  

11/16/13 9:09 AM by georgejonesjr

You only have to read the news, or talk to a cop to learn what real fights look like - when people are serious about fighting its done with weapons whenever possible.What you're talking about is sport, and the argument then isn't about being real (rules and real are mutually contradictory), but about what rules make for the most interesting sport. I can see the interest in a sport with no judging, just fight until someone can't continue. I'm not sure how it would work as a professional sport though. One of the reason point rules (standups and other things that interfere with the fighters just doing their thing within safety bounds) started being introduced was Royce-Shamrock 2. Without rules a lot of fights would go like that, and longer. A good wrestler could hold someone down for an hour - it takes less energy to hold someone down, especially in the heavier weight divisions, than it does to escape). So you add rules to stand them up (including having rounds), and now you're back into point fighting, where you let the referee decide the outcome - no different than having the judges decide.Same with what Starnes did. Keeping your distance is actually a pretty good tactic if there are no point-rules to enforce style. Do it for a couple of hours (no time limits, remember) and if you're in better shape (or just got more sleep the night before) you've got an advantage.And in fact, this is the kind of tactics that real warriors would use, as anyone who's been in the army (ie a real warrior) will tell you. Using tactics like retreating until the opponent is overextended, or just pinning them in one position in a kind of siege are time honored tactics of the great generals.Most fans don't want to see a war (in the sense that a war is largely determined by tactics, and taking risks is very strongly discouraged most of the time - again, this is drummed into your head from day one in the military), they want to see certain kinds of action. And that means having point rules to encourage it.

Lazer MMA site profile image  

11/16/13 8:50 AM by Lazer MMA

Well everyones experience I guess is different. I've never fought one on one that I can recall off hand but never been confronted with a weapon either.Anyway we're talking MA's here, one on one and unarmed it's as interesting a question now as it was in UFC 1 as to who is the best (for real, not on points).

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11/15/13 2:09 PM by georgejonesjr

Depends, who's better with knives and guns? Real fighting hasn't been primarily unarmed for tens of thousands of years.MMA is a sport. Ask a cop what a real fight looks like - weapons, numbers, surprise.

Lazer MMA site profile image  

11/15/13 11:56 AM by Lazer MMA

Yes who would win in real fighting? More important a question then who outpointed who in todays sport no question. This is when the UFC ment more looking at the result. The real deal, not the watered down sport. It will never happen in the UFC.Maybe in todays time though there can be another 'absolute championship of fighting with absolutely no rules' in some country. I understand Russia banned that event after the death in the second tourney (could be rumor, I never saw the second event but thats what my friends who I watched the 1st one with told me).

TwentyNineTwentyEight site profile image  

11/15/13 11:45 AM by TwentyNineTwentyEight

This has zero to do with what I want or how many times I've strategized. The main goal is to get MMA Sanctioned everywhere. Fighters Safety has to be the #1 priority and that is why these rules are implemented. Just like in any other Professional Sport.

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11/14/13 9:09 PM by crowbar

IIRC you could wear shoes.You just couldn`t kick if you wore them.

georgejonesjr site profile image  

11/14/13 5:34 PM by georgejonesjr

Actually no rules is self-explanatory - it means anything goes. Bring what you want in, use what you want.And I don't think that's what Royce said. He said he wanted the old rules, not a complete lack of rules.

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11/14/13 5:27 PM by notsobigmike

It's being legitimized for pretty much everyone.The promoters, the fighters, and the fans.If it stayed NHB-rules, you necessarily limit the amount of exposure you can get and the amount of money you can make.That, in turn, limits the number and quality of fighters, and even the amount of fights you can even put on.Do people REALLY want to go back to the dark ages when there were a couple of events a year and half of the fighters were semi-trained scrubs who were willing to fight for peanuts?It's fun as a diversion. I enjoyed Rio Heroes when there were around. And, I think it's a good thing to have going on somewhere, just to see the different results that come from different rulesets. But there's NO WAY I'd want the UFC (or any other mainstream org) to go back to the NHB ruleset. It's just too limiting.

Galanis site profile image  

11/14/13 4:45 PM by Galanis

Personally I'd love to see the top 32 fghters from WW to HW in a NHB style tourney. Obviously will never happen but I still want to see it.

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11/14/13 3:42 PM by TwentyNineTwentyEight

You don't understand because you don't have the capacity to. You're the child in an adult conversation.