Meltzer: Brock beats most former UFC heavyweight champions


Most people's opinion's of a fighter don't usually go back more than a couple fights. A popular rule to live by in most MMA gym's is that you are only as good as your last fight. But when a fighter retires, you have to look at what he accomplished when he accomplished. Brock Lesnar has lost two fights in a row and announced his retirement from the UFC and sport of MMA.

Most fans have been harsh on Lesnar losing his last two fights in the way he did, but most forgot that not only did Brock Lesnar win the UFC heavyweight title after only three professional MMA bouts, a feat unprecedented in any combat sport, he successfully defended it two times. In his latest Wrestling Observer newsletter, Dave Meltzer discusess Brock's legacy:

The next question is Lesnar’s legacy. Most have been positive about it. The reality is he was an amazing athlete who won the title despite inexperience and a long layoff from competitive sports, succeeding based on athletic ability and a lifetime of wrestling to beat some solid people at their own game.

Others, whether blinded by their hate for Lesnar, pro wrestling, or UFC, have used this loss to say he was never any good, and discredit him. Some have written he was the worst UFC heavyweight champion in history, which is beyond laughable. If you line up every UFC champion in history, when they were champion vs. what short window of prime Lesnar had, Lesnar beats most of them almost every time. He’d pound Shamrock, Severn, Coleman, Randleman, Smith, Rodriguez, Sylvia and Mir into the mat when all of them were champions. He’d struggle with Couture before beating him the majority of the time if not almost every time. He’d beat the Josh Barnett when Barnett was champion, although I’m not sure what would happen if he fought today’s Barnett. He’d lose most of the time to Cain Velasquez, because that’s a bad style match for him. He may not beat Junior Dos Santos either, and as the sport evolves, he wouldn’t beat the majority of the champions of the future. He was a legitimate champion for his time, even though he had major holes in his game, and brought a ton of new fans to the sport, and drew more than anyone in history.

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hmeboy site profile image  

1/7/12 10:04 PM by hmeboy

first, lol! but second I actually picked Cain over Lesnar because of stylistic differencesI do, however, feel that Overeem, while a solid fighter, is overrated quite a bit on here - especially by noobs; which makes his victory even worse..because now Overeem is the best of all time and Lesnar sucks and was never good

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1/7/12 7:28 PM by jbapk

Internet character Bobby Lupo literally claimed that both Cain and Alister had zero shot at beating Lesnar and that THEY were the ones vastly overrated by mma fans.The best proof Lesnar would struggle against the older heavyweights is Lupo saying otherwise.

GladiatorGannon site profile image  

1/7/12 7:18 PM by GladiatorGannon

So true. Dan Henderson has effectively gone from blue belt to black belt in that time, while making similar progress as a striker.The old one dimensional Dan would not be able to hang the same way today.

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1/7/12 6:58 PM by George Hill

No, the Dan Henderson of 1997 who got a gift decision over Carlos Newton and tapped to Frank Shamrock in 50 seconds would not stand a chance against Jon Jones or Anderson Silva. Not a chance.Today's Dan Henderson is 20 pounds of muscle larger, with a knockout punch and submission awareness.The 1996 Vitor Belfort was a 230 pound heavyweight who today's heavyweights would throw around like a child. There's a reason he cut to middleweight. He can't even hang as a light heavyweight.

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1/7/12 6:46 PM by JunkieDog

Yeah, especially guys like Dan Henderson (1997) Poor guy wouldn't stand a chance against any of today's under 30 crowd. Neither would Vitor Belfort (1996)./Sarcasm

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1/7/12 4:43 PM by GladiatorGannon

People are underestimating how much the game has developed since then. A lot of guys that were wrecking machines back then would be trashed in the modern era. This doesn't detract from their greatness on an All Time list, but if the topic is "Who would kick who's ass in their prime" the answer is a little different, and a lot of old legends would get wrecked.

hmeboy site profile image  

1/7/12 4:35 PM by hmeboy

I agree with the Loopz. Good luck getting the noobs and irrational haters to admit this.

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1/7/12 4:06 PM by bhealthy

oh boy was i wrong for putting bas on by list. just rewatched him getting manhandled by ken. and i remember ken was manhandled by LHW FUTA1 ! but the rest of those cats, including vovchanchin, still put swock to sleep.

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1/7/12 3:50 PM by Bobby Lupo

Fucking Mazzagatti cost me 2k. That lousy cheat. 2 on 1 that fight was  

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1/7/12 3:26 PM by goeb

The guy is set for life financially, he has a child now, not to mention had a foot of his colon removed...he got into this sport to be the best, and if he isn't anymore, he does not care to fight.Most MMA fighters can live with the fact that they may never be the best ever and just enjoy the sport, but Brock was never one of those guys.