Chang Sung Jung's manager is upset

source: fightlinker.com
 
Tri Coasta Korean Zombie Signature Tee,Black,large
 

Chang Sung Jung's manager is upset with the t-shirt company TriCoasta (via facebook)

I'm saying it now... F*CK Tri-Coasta! They've been screwing the Korean Zombie for over a year now and we're not taking it anymore. Stay tuned for the full story...

It's going to feel a whole lot better when everyone knows the whole fucked up story!

We'll make the story public soon.

Within a couple of days at the latest...

We appreciate the fans wanting to support KZ! It just sucks that Tri-Coasta took advantage of us.

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Tri-Coasta responds

From: TriCoastaMMA
Edited: 03/30/12 7:03 PM
Member Since: 5/7/11
Posts: 0

Please have the courtesy to hear my side of the story. I will have an official release as well.

Thanks for the posters who stuck up for me on here. I've met some amazing people through MMA.. but unfortunately not all of them can be gems.

Michelle

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From: FUTA WON(c)
Member Since: 7/1/09
Posts: 6464

I know Michelle very well and I just wanted to know if Shug would post his side. Michelle is a great person and I think its just a big misunderstanding. Hopefully they get it sorted out. Like I said Tri-Coastal is a great company hat helps a lot of fighters.

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From: Shug
Member Since: 1/8/10
Posts: 292

We will be making the whole story public very soon (within a day or two). Sorry to keep you all hanging!

I'm fascinated to hear what Michelle has to say... Michelle, keep in mind that I have copies of our past e-mail when you tell your side of the story.

I will tell you all this. Chan Sung is owed tens of thousands of dollars by Tri-Coasta. This has been going on for over a year now... Meanwhile, they continue to sponsor other fighters (as recently as a few weeks ago), and they haven't even attempted to make any sort of payment to us in over 6 months. They've lied to us, avoided us and cheated us.

Chan Sung has desparately wanted to speak out about this, but I urged him not to, because I, too, thought that Michelle would come through. But ultimately, that has not been the case.

Actually, I was the one who introduced Michelle to Ted (the original owner of Tri-Coasta and desiger of the KZ shirts). I thought that she would be able to give the company the stability that it needed at the time. For the people who are saying that there is no way that Michelle would screw KZ over... That's what I thought, too. I was wrong.

Anyway, like I said, the whole story is coming soon...

Brian
Korean Top Team

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From: Shug
Edited: 03/31/12 12:03 PM
Member Since: 1/8/10
Posts: 297

I didn't mean to imply that Chan Sung has received NO money from Tri-Coasta. He has been paid, but the amount that he's owed is far larger than what he's been paid.

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From: frontrowbrian
Member Since: 11/12/07
Posts: 18159

Michele is a nice, honest person who is in this shitty industry with the best of intentions ..... to the best of my knowledge.

KZ's manager has a reputation as a hot head .... once offered to buy back every KZ shirt from fans who said he was overrated when Roop KO'ed him. Like 5 fans said something and he goes online and plays drama queen like the entire MMA community was disparaging KZ.

I'd let this play out. Hear both sides.

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From: Shug
Member Since: 1/8/10
Posts: 298

I did, in fact, make that offer. Not out of hotheadedness, though. After the Roop fight, some people had commented that they wish they hadn't bought the KZ shirt, so I, in complete calmness, stated that I would buy back shirts from anyone who wanted to return them. I absolutely would have, too. I know it wouldn't have been a lot of people, but if they really didn't want to rep KZ because of the loss, I would have given their money back and proudly worn the shirts myself or sold them to other people who would have.

I recall someone saying that I was being a drama queen back then, too. Maybe it was you? If so, I didn't really understand the comment then, nor do I now. If I was just pissed off and didn't think it through, then hundreds of people actually wanted their money back, I would have been screwed. That would have been a hotheaded mistake. At the time, I rationally figured not people actually would want their money back, so why not make the offer and appease a few fairweather fans?

Throughout this affair with Tri-Coasta we've (including myself) have been more than patient waiting for payment to be made. I have an e-mail where Michelle herself states as much. But, enough is enough.

Frontrowbrian, how long would you wait to say something if someone owed you a lot of money, meanwhile continuing to make money off of your name and paying other people, but not you, in the process?

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rtwil2007 site profile image  

4/4/12 11:07 PM by rtwil2007

I can see why you shouldn't discuss this publicly any longer...it shouldn't have been handled in the public to begin with. It is a contractual issue between 2 parties which you unfortunately decided to air in public. In your haste to try to sway public opinion, I can't imagine any legal representative being happy to see a dispute handled this way...especially with statements that indicate you were not happy with the contract and violated it.I wish KZ all the best. I am fan...but in wishing him the best, I hope he also looks into finding more professional representation.

RevDaniel site profile image  

4/4/12 2:00 PM by RevDaniel

fair enough. thanks for the reply.

whoabro site profile image  

4/4/12 1:45 PM by whoabro

i am not a lawyer but i work in the apparel industry and work very closely with our legal team. IMO there is not nearly enough similarity between these two designs for an infringement case (although the inspiration for the KZ shirt is clearly there).

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4/4/12 1:39 PM by whoabro

this is incorrect; designs cannot be trademarked. designs are copyrighted.the person who created the shirt design owns the copyright for the artwork itself (unless other arrangements have been made), but that has nothing to do with the rights to use the phrase "korean zombie." that would be covered by TRADEMARK law, which identifies the origin of a product (ie, nike, reebok, etc).if Tri Costa did indeed trademark Korean Zombie, he should have little difficulty challenging that trademark. however, he would have no rights to use the artwork that Tri Costa created for his shirts. Two completely separate issues.didn't read this whole thread so apologies if this has already been said.

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4/4/12 12:45 PM by Shug

Well, unfortunately, we've been advised to make no further comments on this matter. However, we will try to keep you all up to date, to whatever extent we can. Thanks to all of you for your support!

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4/4/12 12:13 PM by MMA_Live_In_Gym

SHUG, please release the emails.

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4/4/12 11:06 AM by SeeEsDub

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FUTA WON(c) site profile image  

4/4/12 10:58 AM by FUTA WON(c)

That's about as good as you can sum all this up. If I wasn't on my phone I would vote you up.

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4/4/12 10:33 AM by BlueWrapper

I've been following this story closely, me personally I don't know Michelle, and I don't know Shug. And I'm a KZ fan. So I'm neutral in this.What I take away from this is that no one really knows the specifics without knowing exactly what is in the contract.If KZ did what he was contractually obligated to do, then he is entitled to his full compensation. If he did not then he may not be legally entitled full compensation, but may at least be owed partial payment.In the end business is business, it's not personal. I can see feelings being hurt on both sides. But what the contract says rules. In all honesty, if it ends that KZ does not get his full compensation it will be because of the contract HE SIGNED. He is an adult and professional athelete and if he signed a contract that didn't favor him that is ultimately on him and his management team. Businesses aren't in business to make friends they are there to make money. If I was KZ, and I lost a big pay day over a poorly written contract. It would be upsetting to lose a sponsor you once considered a friend, and I can see him feeling slighted. But I guarantee you I'd be more upset with two people, myself and my management. For signing a bad contract. Honestly, heads would roll on my management team for not looking after my interests properly.This whole situation is lose lose for everyone involved. KZ may lose a big payday. TC will suffer bad PR. And KZ management may lose their jobs. Why? Because business is always business, its not about friendship. It's about money.For me, all the back forth between involved and supporting parties on both sides is all heresay and opinion until we know exactly what the contract says. Just my two cents.

FUTA WON(c) site profile image  

4/4/12 9:34 AM by FUTA WON(c)

I didn't mean it in any bad way I was just asking. Thanks for answering.