Damon Martin: Why Fedor is not the GOAT

 

B/R Featured Columnist Damon Martin makes the argument that Anderson Silva, not Fedor Emelianenko is the greatest fighter of all time. Here is his argument against Fedor:

He put together an incredible undefeated run between 2001 and 2008, winning a total of 28 fights in a row.  Emelianenko was the conquering ruler of the heavyweights in Pride when they proudly boasted the strongest division the sport has ever seen.

What kills Emelianenko in the greatest-of-all–time-discussion is the fact that his streak is littered with no names and fights that were obvious set-ups for him to destroy the opposition.  At the time when Pride was at its apex, fights were routinely matched up as entertainment more than actually progressing a fighter's career by facing the best of the best in their division.

Emelianenko's streak is still ultra impressive, but it's hard to ignore that some of those wins came over names like Yuji Nagata (he was 0-1 when he faced Emelianenko) or Zuluzinho (despite his 7-0 record at the time he had no business being in the same cage).   He did topple the best heavyweights in Pride beating fighters like Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko CroCop, but finished neither of them within the distance.

Some wins on his record also have to be put into context because it's no secret that when Emelianenko squared off with names like Mark Coleman and Kevin Randleman, their best years were already behind them.  Add in fights against Matt Lindland (who is middleweight) and Hong Man Choi (one fight in MMA at the time), and Emelianenko's invincible streak takes a few dings along the way.

It also can't be ignored that Emelianenko started fighting after Silva did (his first bout was in 2000), he retired at 36 years of age (Silva is currently 38), and he went 3-3 in his final six bouts.  In those three losses, Emelianenko was finished each time including one defeat to Dan Henderson, who was a light heavyweight moving up to heavyweight for the bout.

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Wasa-B site profile image  

7/9/13 1:43 AM by Wasa-B

They are both great, this shit ain't goin no where without people shitting on them both. Enough.

Haulport site profile image  

7/8/13 5:26 PM by Haulport

If the truth hurts, then you must be typing that from a hospital bed (a different hospital from where you are "resting") with your ass hanging from a sling in the air due to the violent anal probing you have received in the past 48 hours.......

Lazer MMA site profile image  

7/8/13 3:42 PM by Lazer MMA

Great you can finally be man enough to at least deal with though. AS has worse losses (to far inferior fighters than does Fedor, and many other greats to be sure too) and the average strength of each opponent Fedor beat far exceeds AS as well (as with other greats to be sure too).Not just Cain but any great HW would take AS down with ease and win the fight >8.5/10Now just deal

orcus site profile image  

7/8/13 3:25 PM by orcus

Sorry, the truth hurts.

D241 site profile image  

7/8/13 3:17 PM by D241

    You chose option #2, color me surprised  

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7/8/13 3:05 PM by orcus

You might be right. There's only really one other contender: Babalu, Yvel, Nog, and Kanehara. But the Nog win was B.S. and Kanehara is bleh. Honestly I would say that the fact that either of those is his greatest streak is one reason why my mind boggles when people put Dan forward as a GOAT contender. Neither is a great streak. 

D241 site profile image  

7/8/13 2:50 PM by D241

Yes orcus, I am saying Babalu, Feijao, Fedor, and Shogun, was the best 4 fight win streak of Dan's career.   Instead of just shitting on my opinion, why don't you give us yours, which obviously isn't the same as mine.   Go ahead and do one of two things.   1.make an argument on Dan's best 4 fight win streak that wasn't those 4 or 2.Don't make an argument, and just try to discredit another proven legend in Dan Henderson

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7/8/13 2:20 PM by BernardHopkins

VU

Haulport site profile image  

7/7/13 1:22 PM by Haulport

Comparing these Lists doesn't even past the straight face test. Forget about the fact that Anderson and Fedor are the same size. And if you want a real laugh, just imagine how the fights between the guys on each list would play out: How does Semmy Schilt vs. Rich Franklin go down? Or Mark Coleman versus Chael? Or Big Nog versus Hendo (oh, that's right, Hendo lost) How about Yushin Okami vs Arlovski? Or Vitor vs. CroCop? How about Heath Herring versus Nate? How about Werdum vs. Weidman? Bigfoot vs. Chonan? Hendo vs. Takase?   BEST WINS (Fedor - Anderson) Mirko Filipovic Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (2) Kevin Randleman Gary Goodridge Kazuyuki Fujita Heath Herring Semmy Schilt Andrei Arlovski Tim Sylvia Mark Hunt Mark Coleman (2) Matt Lindland Renato Sobral Tsuyoshi Kosaka Dan Henderson Vitor Belfort Rich Franklin (2) Chael Sonnen (2) Yushin Okami Forrest Griffin Demian Maia Thales Leites Patrick Cote Stephan Bonnar Nate Marquardt Carlos Newton Lee Murray   LOSES (Fedor - Anderson) Fabricio Werdum Dan Henderson Bigfoot Silva Chris Weidman Chonan Takase Luiz Azeredo