Does win at UFC 167 make GSP the GOAT?


A case can be made for several fighters being the greatest of all time. Some people it was Fedor Emelianenko before his legacy was tarnished by three straight losses. Some believe it was and still is Anderson Silva despite his most recent loss to Chris Weidman. T.P. grants makes the case that Georges St-Pierre will cement that status with a win over Johny Hendricks at UFC 167:

With a win over Hendricks, St-Pierre would be in the unique position of having turned aside the best of three generations of fighters. He beat the old guard of welterweights headed by Matt Hughes, but also included the likes of Frank Trigg and Sean Sherk. St. Pierre was then faced with a plethora of challengers from his own generation, beating Nick Diaz, B.J. Penn, Jon Fitch, Josh Koscheck, Thiago Alves, and Jake Shields.

And when St. Pierre beat Carlos Condit, he head defeated one of the standard bearers of a new generation of fighters. Condit, while his career started in 2002, didn't come into his own as a fighter until 2010 with wins over Rory MacDonald and Dan Hardy. Now in Hendricks, St-Pierre faces another of the best a new generation of welterweights.

Victory against Hendricks is not a given and will not be easy for St-Pierre, but should he end the evening by getting his hand raised he will have a streak of dominance stretching from 2005 to the present day with only the Matt Serra hiccup interrupting his winning streak, putting him at 16-1 since he lost his first shot at a title to Matt Hughes in 2004.

With a win on Saturday St-Pierre would become the greatest of all time.

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So Underground, what do you think? Is GSP the greatest of all-time already, and if not, will a win over Hendricks cement that. Or does he still have work to do to earn the title, even with a win?


tags: Georges St-Pierre (detail)  Anderson Silva (detail)  


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sekundarburnes site profile image  

11/25/13 4:47 PM by sekundarburnes

it's been three years and five months since werdum triangled fedor and the world is still waiting for the "fedor is GOAT" party to put together one real argument as to why fedor is better than gsp, jones, cain or even anderson. he beats none of those guys in comparisons of competition, skill or longevity. he is the most romantic figure in mma, i get that, but don't think of giving him the p4p #1 status as doing his legacy justice, think of it as robbing the true #1, GSP, of the title he's earned

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11/24/13 8:54 AM by Odinson

That type history rivisionism can only come from a zuffa employees or someone under the age of 23. Number one reason Fedor is GOAT. The shared emotion the mma world felt from watching him fight.

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11/22/13 3:37 PM by GSP24

Anderson is still the GOAT. GSP and Fedor are pretty close.

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11/22/13 3:22 PM by Entreri

GSP is the GOATFights in the most competitive division in the UFC. #2 Silva#3 Fedor

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11/22/13 3:19 PM by sekundarburnes

are people serious when they mention fedor's name in the GOAT conversation? guy, he beat a bunch of cans from the old guard of mma in a yakuza-run promotion that only put on legitimate mma fights when it couldn't get away with fudging things. when he finally fought a string of real fighters under the unified rules everyone else fights under in the #2 regulated organization, strikeforce (because he priced himself out of fighting in the #1 organization, a problem no one else seems to have had), he got destroyed by everyone they put him against but one thug with a few weeks preparation. after that, he went back to fighting jeff monson. these are the facts.fedor was in some awesomely exciting fights, his career was really fun to watch, but skill for skill, accomplishment for accomplishment, he's not in GSP's league.unless GOAT means something other than best fighter of all time. but i don't think that's what we mean we're talking about the greatest, we mean the best fighter, and that ain't fedor

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11/21/13 11:09 PM by TeamRenzo4Life

It's fuckin funny isn't it? The veteran UG'ers actually believe just because most people didn't belong to this site since fuckin Kimo caried the crucifix to the cage, you're a TUF noob.I rented the first UFC VHS at the video store in my hick town.I never heard about this site until Tito's rant after beating Ken Shamrock "ALL YOU PEOPLE TALKING SHIT (or was it smack?) ON MMA.TV...."So I typed the address and boom im looking at threads by some dude named kazja13 and another thread that was titled "THE UFC BUYS JESUS CHRIST" (It was about the rumoured aquisition of PRIDE I believe.)But according to UG vets (UG OG's? I only heard of mixed martial arts after the bonnar/griffen fight and I'm so ignorant pronounce the "R" in Royce

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11/16/13 2:25 AM by ausgepicht

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11/16/13 1:35 AM by Harold_Howard


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11/16/13 12:22 AM by Mix6APlix

I still use the Heiron fight as an example of a perfect stoppage. He kod heiron who woke up when he hit the ground and it continued until the ref stepped in.

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11/15/13 10:11 PM by Chiron

Nope. He's still solid #3. Anderson and Fedor are still ahead of him, especially with his lack of finishes. We must never forget that the use of judges and decisions are a backup system for use when a fighter is incapable of taking victory for themselves inside the time frame. It is a more complete victory and even GSP himself has acknowledged a finish is superior to a decision.