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12/20/10 9:42 PM
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Doesn't wallis have an email addy? Phone Post
12/20/10 9:42 PM
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Stupid iPhone. Wallid I mean Phone Post
12/20/10 9:45 PM
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 If this thread leads to ANY audio or video from Walid, it will be untouchable.  If the audio/video contains an outburst it might be thread of the year.

-jk
12/20/10 9:54 PM
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I was gonna post this last night, but choose not to after MMAGUY's post. I am not accusing anyone. BUT....his facebook said he graduated from SUNY Cortland in 2000 (ten years ago. Something doesn't add up. He looks like he is in his 30's. He has been in the states since he at least went to college (in 2000) subtract 4 years of college thats a minimum of 14 years in the states. So he must of been a VERY young BB if he recieved it in Brazil before coming to the States. Unless the dates are wrong, or he is older than he looks. If wrong, I stand corected.

ummmmm now MMAGUY is stealing my deductive reasoning :)

Plus when I went there I did not know any professors that spoke Portuguese, must of been difficult translating
 
12/20/10 9:55 PM
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he's done an epic troll job
12/20/10 10:00 PM
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Jump Kick -  If this thread leads to ANY audio or video from Walid, it will be untouchable.  If the audio/video contains an outburst it might be thread of the year.

-jk

12/20/10 10:07 PM
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I like how this is going in a strange order. We assumed he was a fraud, then confirmed he was legit, now are investigating his seeming illegitimacy.

I'll be watching for additional developments. I'm always tempted to join in on some of the "advanced" research, because I have access to investigation tools/programs, but it would be illegal to use without justification (even though it's unlikely to be tracked). Still, I'm always tempted. I'll hold out until it's really worth it.
12/20/10 10:09 PM
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mmaguy30 - So lets say he got his Black in Brazil.. BEFORE Cortland? a BB in the states under Walid for 15+ YEARS!!! (and no one has heard of him?)

SO that seems unlikley... how about this... he trains a bit in Brazil prior to Cortland, say he is maybe a purple or brown... comes to the states, 4 years College at Cortlad, and then immediatly returns to Brazil, the 4 years away from the sport has no affect and he is able to pick up Black in how long? When did her return to the US, marry his (in 2003 18 years old) wife, open a gym and still none hears of him till now?


That is certainly possible, like he trained up most of the way in Brazil, came to the US and continued training under someone else, then went back to get his BB.
12/20/10 10:21 PM
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12/20/10 10:30 PM
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12/20/10 10:40 PM
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Is that a young David Lang sitting in the back left of this pic? It may well be, but I dont see his name listed...

 

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12/20/10 10:43 PM
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ilovetortillas - <img src="http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb88/misses1112/LangMMA.png">



Was just coming here to post that shit. He is so done son. That is admitted defeat. Another faker called out and shut down. Now it is time to get him to stop that black belt bullshit talk.
12/20/10 10:46 PM
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mmaguy30 - Fuck... great minds think alike... Just got your pm alumnybjj..

I had the same thoughts on the timeline.

The english is something else, it alomost seems put on.

Like someone is trying VERY hard to sound brazilian


Yeah... this dude is something else. I have no idea why these frauds do not hide their tracks better.
12/20/10 10:47 PM
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Top Team - Who is your instructor AlumBJJ? <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Helio Soneca. He knows most of your guys with ATT and is real tight with Renato Tavares.



I know RT real well. I've trained at his gym in stewart. He has a very aggressive style but I like it. It makes you tough or quit. Anyways, they all fo back for the holidays. I'm about to Facebook him to see if he knows anything about this guy.


Soneca is exactly the same way. Lord help you if you are not pushing the pace.
12/20/10 10:50 PM
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mmaguy30 - Just got this from dave lang...


David Lang December 20 at 10:42pm Report
Phil your questions i will answer after the holidays.
i did go back and forth from brasil as someone posted.

tell your unnamed source that i am sorry we took 4 people from his gym.

it is sad that people feel the need to lie.
i work very hard for what i have.
God bless


Ask him why he took off the Wallid Ismail reference and why his wrestling friend took his record off as well?

This is the original verbiage:

David Lang

Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Under Wallid Ismail and Black Belt in Judo Jiu Jitsu Under Gilbert Pouillart . 8-1 in mma fights, 78-1 in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition and 8-0 tai kick boxing.
12/20/10 10:51 PM
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But it does look like they changed the website. It used to say more than what it does in that screen cap, right?

*Edit- Looks like thats been covered.
12/20/10 10:51 PM
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mmaguy30 - I'm glad Dave has agreed to answer our questions... but the whole "I'll answer your questions later" is very Christian Darrow-esq

I hope we are not about to go down that road again....



MMAguy30-check my post. He has already removed the names of Wallid and the guy who gave him the black in Judo. He is a fraud.
12/20/10 10:52 PM
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WTF, did he just take the Wallid references off the site? As well as the 1500-9 or whatever wrestling record?

-edit -yep, lol
12/20/10 10:54 PM
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changing the website isn't going to help him. if he wants to claim he's "legit", why would he take it off?
12/20/10 10:56 PM
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BJJkilla - changing the website isn't going to help him. if he wants to claim he's "legit", why would he take it off?


Because he is not legit and is full of shit. I would put a 1000 bucks that I could tap this fucker at will. I mean just whoop his ass.
12/20/10 10:58 PM
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mmaguy30 -  This pic was just uploaded by jay... note the signatures....


<img alt="" src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/pgizmo1/156828_179565415401721_100000447905994_575228_1767765_n.jpg" />


Does that say Gracie Combatives? Seriously? When in the hell did Wallid join the darkside of bjj?
12/20/10 10:59 PM
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mmaguy30 - NO FUCKING SHIT....

They changed the website in the past 10 min.... screen cap the new and post next to the old...


I don't think anyone has the old screencap. The girl on the last page accidently screened capped the updated one when you requested it.
12/20/10 10:59 PM
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maybe my eyes are failing me, but is the name Wallid misspelled on the cert? looks like an L is missing?..
12/20/10 11:01 PM
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sideshowsteve666 - maybe my eyes are failing me, but is the name Wallid misspelled on the cert? looks like an L is missing?..


LMFAO!! Not only did the moron put Gracie Combatives as the school type, yet he also spelled Wallid as Waild. This guy is not even a good fake. Seriously, if you are going for the big time in fake instructors, please get their name right.
12/20/10 11:01 PM
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Looks like we have out first big sign this may get good!

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