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1/12/14 11:42 PM
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1/12/14 11:50 PM
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^ lol Phone Post
1/12/14 11:59 PM
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UGPTT__IeatCOCKSforBreakfastAwYeah -

Is that legit? Or did he just forge it. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 12:03 AM
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OMG I just peeked at this page!!!
I'm at page 200 now, halfway!!!
1/13/14 12:19 AM
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And lol @ his new facebook name "David Mrbean DasilvaLan" jeez.
1/13/14 12:22 AM
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You can fake a certificate, you can buy a certificate...but you cant fake struggling to sweep/submit a white belt. That is all, carry on.
1/13/14 12:29 AM
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Oh... and the date on the certificate is posted 12/14/13, Carlos David Oliveira tweeted on 12/17/13:

"carlos david ?@C_DavidOliveira 17 Dec Thanks to everyone that came to Roberto Traven seminar in my school He is my master and he is been teaching me and helping me for many years"

12/14/13 was a Saturday so if you put one and one together you can deduce that the seminar was that Saturday. There has to be someone between this forum and the Atama BJJ forum that attended the Roberto Traven seminar. Someone repost the pics of David "posing" (see what I did there?) with the legit black belts. Someone from that seminar has to remember rolling with the slightly retarded bald guy with the bad tats and the crispy blackbelt.
1/13/14 12:34 AM
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I just started a thread on the Atama BJJ forum asking if anyone attended the aforementioned seminar.
1/13/14 1:01 AM
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Keep it alive... Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 2:21 AM
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Anybody tried to tweet contact David Oliviera regarding this? Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 6:55 AM
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I love the name change... I really do.

DO you guys realize that we have actually made a dude change his entire fuckign name?

We really need to hear from a current or recent student...

Can you imagine the treasure trove of lies?

I am betting he is a cia assassin by now...
1/13/14 8:31 AM
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This moron never ceases to amaze.

First of all, I will repeat a common observation from this thread. For the amount of time and energy that has gone into the various ridiculous schemes he has concocted over the years, he could actually have trained and become legitimate by now. It's true, in theory. With the amount of money his elderly, naive parents funnel into his escapades he could have been travelling and training with some great BBs and actually have gotten somewhere.

But Dave has none of the character for that. Dave Lang's pathologically weak ego and self esteem could never have handled going to a class and just being another Joe Schmoe on the mat, sweating and struggling to learn the art. There's too much honor, dignity and strength required to follow that path.

Dave needs to automatically step in and play the big shot. He creates entire fictional identities and uses his sociopathic skills of manipulation to make people like him and want to be his friend. It works for awhile, but the stupid narcisistic fuck just can't stay off the interwebz. And when he pops his little rat head up out of his trash can on the world wide web, there is always some UGer out there somewhere, waiting to catch him, and bring his facade of lies down on his once more.

We've seen this all unfold before. At this point Dave's students are starting to realize something is suspicious about him after all. Even the people he has really emotionally taken advantage of by presenting them with a phony friend are starting to see that nothing adds up in his bullshit and that why on earth would all these strangers from around the world be ganging up on him like this.

Why are people from around the world coming together to work against David Lang? Why are there so many people willing to speak on the record and testify in court if necessary about the fact that you were making claims and handing out certificates over three years ago that totally contradict the timeline and history you are presenting to your students now?

Your "students" will start to ask themselves these things Lang, and sooner or later they are going to start talking to me, or 10er, or MMAguy, or somebody you aren't even aware of in your community who has stumbled upon this story, or who will read about it when it starts to debut as an ongoing, weekly series later this week.

The fact is, we're already in contact with some of your students, Lang. And even people who have been manipulated into investing in you emotionally, Lang, are going to have no trouble eventually seeing who the credible people are here.

As for the recent certificate, thanks alot Lang, you fucking illiterage stooge. You make this all too easy. It's about 8:30 in the morning now and I am fully confident that I will be in communication with somebody who will completely discredit this latest fraud by the end of the day.

1/13/14 8:48 AM
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I am sure you have it, but I can get Carlos David Oliviera contact info if you need it
1/13/14 9:04 AM
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Carlos David Oliveira
https://www.facebook.com/carlosdavid.oliveira?fref=ts

That certificate was posted on his Facebook wall. David Lang tagged him and Carlos David Oliveira approved it.
1/13/14 9:11 AM
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I just posted on there.
1/13/14 9:13 AM
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Hey Lang...




Its ALLLLLL about to come crashing down... AGAIN!


Cunt.
1/13/14 9:16 AM
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Dirty Dick-I would like to get an actual direct contact for Mr. Oliveira if you could provide it. I found a phone number for a school where he is listed in Virginia and will be calling down there later today. If I message his FB it is going to go into his "other folder" and I doubt he'll ever see it. I do know other people in his lineage are aware of this and attempting to contact him today.

I do not think you have to approve when you are tagged on FB. I am pretty sure my mother-in-law is tagging me in shit without my consent all the time. I do think you can go back and untag yourself in stuff (which I don't do with my mother-in-law, because I'm not that big of an ass).

It looks like a guy like Mr. Oliveira is getting tagged in stuff all day long. That's a huge blue belt testing group and probably 75% of the students have photos up that they tagged him in. A good percentage of people attending all his seminars are going to be tagging him in photos afterward. I doubt he is tracking down every time he comes up tagged on something on FB.
1/13/14 9:18 AM
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Holy fuck... 

1/13/14 9:22 AM
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BriggsSeekins - Dirty Dick-I would like to get an actual direct contact for Mr. Oliveira if you could provide it. I found a phone number for a school where he is listed in Virginia and will be calling down there later today. If I message his FB it is going to go into his "other folder" and I doubt he'll ever see it. I do know other people in his lineage are aware of this and attempting to contact him today.

I do not think you have to approve when you are tagged on FB. I am pretty sure my mother-in-law is tagging me in shit without my consent all the time. I do think you can go back and untag yourself in stuff (which I don't do with my mother-in-law, because I'm not that big of an ass).

It looks like a guy like Mr. Oliveira is getting tagged in stuff all day long. That's a huge blue belt testing group and probably 75% of the students have photos up that they tagged him in. A good percentage of people attending all his seminars are going to be tagging him in photos afterward. I doubt he is tracking down every time he comes up tagged on something on FB.

I am friends with David(Butterfly steak). Will get his number for you
1/13/14 9:22 AM
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Look at his fucking gi pants. That kills me.
1/13/14 9:24 AM
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Seriously,

we all KNOW this, and there is NO doubt...

Dave Lang is no black belt, and has not earned a Black belt nor does he have black belt skills...

we have video proof.

We all know about the lies with Wallid, and Bittencourt, and Mansour, and Poulard, and Renzo, and Hermes...

but that pic above is pretty solid proof that this cockfaggit was awarded a second degree on his BB by this guy David Oliveria....

Is he selling belts?

I know nothing about this guy, and I don't want to start throwing around allegations, but did he get conned? How in the fuck do you award a black belt 2nd degree to this guy?

There is some serious fuckery here...
1/13/14 9:28 AM
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Has anyone seen his pants? How long and baggy they are? Im not saying a legit Blackbelt wouldn't have such an ill fitting gi but, well, ive never seen a Blackbelt with one lol Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 9:29 AM
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Are we sure that's not some sort of certificate for the seminar? I can't see from the size what it says.

If this guys sold Lang a belt, that's going to be a much bigger scandal than Lang's fuckshow.
1/13/14 9:35 AM
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Oliveiras was never a name Lang mentioned that I am aware of back in 2010. He definitely wasn't presenting him as having any place within his lineage. He was claiming Wallid and an association with Renzo Gracie and the Gracies generally.

I am pretty sure that he never started dropping the Oliveiras name until recently. I am going through the threads to track down the major lineage claims he has made already.

So set aside the video we have seen for a moment, that clearly proves he has no BB skills at all. He also, by his own various timelines, could not have been working with Oliveiras, Travern, and company for more than a year or two.

I am going to need to interview Oliveiras about his timeline of training Lang, if that is a real BB certificate. We have an extensive and detailed list of lies told by Lang in the past 3 plus years. We know there is no credible way Lang could have put in the time under Oliveiras to earn that belt. We know from seeing him struggle to hold a closed guard on that white belt that he is no black belt.
1/13/14 9:42 AM
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I know for a fact that was the first time Professor Traven had ever seen the guy Phone Post 3.0

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