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2/8/13 10:58 PM
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2/8/13 11:07 PM
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gamer - There has been a lot of fuckery going on in zuffa mma

Ken Shamrock vs Franklin was an obvious work

"A lot of fuckery"

You named one fight.

Ken was going for a sliding leg lock. You really think a prime Rich Frankin needs any help to beat a 41 Kenny,and Ken put Ace on crutches for weeks with that heel.
2/8/13 11:11 PM
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There fixed judging.
2/9/13 1:36 AM
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CODELMJVG - There fixed judging.
Don't you think if the judging was fixed that Edgar would have won each of his last 3, Diaz would have beat Condit or Faber would have beat Cruz? The most obvious cases to get away with a fixed close decision for the more "marketable" guy to have won and it didn't happen. What decisions are they fixing? Phone Post
2/9/13 1:37 AM
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People would commit suicide because UFC IS THE BEST EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2/9/13 1:38 AM
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kylekanada - Hypothetically, if some of the fights we've loved were revealed to be staged or predetermined to some degree, would you still watch mma?

There wouldn't be MMA to watch, because if the UFC was staging fights, the AC's would pull their liscence.


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2/9/13 1:53 AM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Bigfoot Silva basically proved the UFC and Strikeforce weren't fixed Phone Post
Oh the irony, a guy with a nickname based on an imaginary creature proving that something else is real and believable. I like it. Phone Post
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2/9/13 2:02 AM
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That's a good question. That would be nuts thinking all the fights you you watched ended out to be fixed. Phone Post
2/9/13 2:12 AM
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kylekanada - Hypothetically, if some of the fights we've loved were revealed to be staged or predetermined to some degree, would you still watch mma?

This is MMA. Not WWE. Nothing about martial artists who dedicate their lives to achieving greatness thru discipline, hard work and sacrifice for no guarantee of fame fortune or glory can remotely be considered, nor should it be confused,as fake.

It's obvious, with that question, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. If you did, the mere suggestion that UFC fights are fake, makes you one of the lowest forms of MMA fans....

Have some fights been fixed? Absolutely. Was that at the behest of the UFC? Absolutely positively fuck no. It was a matter of either both fighters, or only one fighter being in on the fix. And at times it was all set up by some shady, outside force that had no business being involved with matters related to MMA. See: PRIDE FC and their Yakuza roots.

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You sir, are the troll.
He asked a simple question. It was a strict hypothetical. And it was just entertaining the fact of "what if". In no way did he insinuate it was happening. Go troll elsewhere. Phone Post
2/9/13 2:24 AM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Bigfoot Silva basically proved the UFC and Strikeforce weren't fixed Phone Post
Maybe he said fuck the gameplan lol. Phone Post
2/9/13 5:21 AM
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MMA - Yes. UFC - No.

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2/9/13 7:00 AM
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kylekanada - Hypothetically, if some of the fights we've loved were revealed to be staged or predetermined to some degree, would you still watch mma?

This is MMA. Not WWE. Nothing about martial artists who dedicate their lives to achieving greatness thru discipline, hard work and sacrifice for no guarantee of fame fortune or glory can remotely be considered, nor should it be confused,as fake.

It's obvious, with that question, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. If you did, the mere suggestion that UFC fights are fake, makes you one of the lowest forms of MMA fans....

Have some fights been fixed? Absolutely. Was that at the behest of the UFC? Absolutely positively fuck no. It was a matter of either both fighters, or only one fighter being in on the fix. And at times it was all set up by some shady, outside force that had no business being involved with matters related to MMA. See: PRIDE FC and their Yakuza roots.

Back under the Bridge, Troll.
Calm down bro, I'm sure he will let you bang...


















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2/9/13 7:47 PM
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gamer - There has been a lot of fuckery going on in zuffa mma

Ken Shamrock vs Franklin was an obvious work

"A lot of fuckery"

You named one fight.

Ken was going for a sliding leg lock. You really think a prime Rich Frankin needs any help to beat a 41 Kenny,and Ken put Ace on crutches for weeks with that heel.

Don't bother man.  Soon enough someone will post the gif of Ken taking a flop, which conveniently ends so that you don't see what happens next and it makes it seem like that's the ending of the fight.  When in reality after the flop Shamrock scored his only significant offense of the fight, and was finished a minute later in a ground exchange.

Ironically I do suspect some of Shamrock's fights in the UFC of being a little shady... But Franklin is not one of them.

2/9/13 7:49 PM
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Looks like a work... if the fight ended there.

2/9/13 7:49 PM
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Oh wait...

 

2/9/13 7:52 PM
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And that's what really happened.

2/9/13 7:53 PM
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Yep it was a work all right.

2/9/13 7:54 PM
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Here's what an actual work looks like:

 

http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/kimbo-slice_bo-cantrell.gif

2/9/13 7:55 PM
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This one is also iffy

Kimbo knocks out Tank Abbott GIF

2/9/13 7:57 PM
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Can't find a gif, but I always wondered about this fight as well...

2/9/13 8:01 PM
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They fix fights by the match making alone sometimes. See Kimbo and some of the other fights where title holders of that org were fighting a UFC Champion or someone else who's very good in the UFC. <br /><br />Make no mistake about it, those fights were a win for the UFC from the beginning to prove how much better UFC fighters are, ie GSP vs Shields and now GSP vs Diaz.
2/9/13 8:07 PM
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kylekanada - Hypothetically, if some of the fights we've loved were revealed to be staged or predetermined to some degree, would you still watch mma?

This is MMA. Not WWE. Nothing about martial artists who dedicate their lives to achieving greatness thru discipline, hard work and sacrifice for no guarantee of fame fortune or glory can remotely be considered, nor should it be confused,as fake.

It's obvious, with that question, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. If you did, the mere suggestion that UFC fights are fake, makes you one of the lowest forms of MMA fans....

Have some fights been fixed? Absolutely. Was that at the behest of the UFC? Absolutely positively fuck no. It was a matter of either both fighters, or only one fighter being in on the fix. And at times it was all set up by some shady, outside force that had no business being involved with matters related to MMA. See: PRIDE FC and their Yakuza roots.

Back under the Bridge, Troll.

first off MR. Bungle rules! Patton is the man! but... relax. it was just a question for kicks. jeez. and to the OP, anything is possible but i really dont see it happening in the states. in an international show it seems more of a possibility. but the UFC always have thier watchdogs in tow. i hope it never happens.if it did, i would watch a lot more BJJ and kickboxing.
2/11/13 1:50 AM
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I never noticed or remember hearing/seeing it until a month or so ago, but it has been bothering me a bit. Ken shamrock said during the tito/ken tuf season that he "put tito over" in their first fight.  and tito never paid any repsect or something like that.  Why would he say he put tito over?

2/11/13 1:53 AM
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I never noticed or remember hearing/seeing it until a month or so ago, but it has been bothering me a bit. Ken shamrock said during the tito/ken tuf season that he "put tito over" in their first fight.  and tito never paid any repsect or something like that.  Why would he say he put tito over?


Because he's delusional.

2/11/13 2:39 AM
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Had a friend who thought Sonnen/Andy 2 was fixed. Delusional upset Sonnen fan imo. Phone Post

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