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http://espn.go.com/olympics/wrestling/story/_/id/8939185/ioc-drops-wrestling-2020-olympics

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8940557
2/12/13 7:48 PM
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Wrestling goes but badminton, table tennis and dressage stay in?

 

Fuck the IOC.

2/12/13 7:49 PM
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2/12/13 7:51 PM
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Wrestling goes but badminton, table tennis and dressage stay in?

 

Fuck the IOC.


You forgot speed walking, a true testament to the potential of a human being.
2/12/13 8:18 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit. Phone Post
2/12/13 8:30 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

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2/12/13 8:32 PM
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I'm STUNNED.

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2/12/13 8:55 PM
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To be placed with Olympic Hop Scotch.
2/12/13 9:01 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.


Would be interesting to see what the television ratings are for Olympic wrestling over the course of the last 20 years or so.

My guess is they're pretty low in most countries.

Would be surprised if that didn't play a factor in this.

its all about this the tv ratings and how you cant put wrestling into a prime time spot just like baseball its too slow for the olympics, competition runs too long and terrible shit like that
2/12/13 9:45 PM
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Isn't Wrestling an original sport? How can they do this?

Wiki says the final event in the ancient pentathalon used to be wrestling as well.
2/12/13 10:15 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.


Nope, Judo, as an example, has more medals concentrated in the top 4 countries. The 100/200m sprint is dominated by Jamaica, US, and various Carribean countries. What about basketball?

I think it has more to do with poor viewership, which is also a fucking sham.
2/12/13 10:18 PM
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no it wasnt about the ratings or the participation. it was even worse than that. its because wrestling didnt lobby hard enough (ie give enough $$$$)

2/12/13 10:19 PM
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hellride - Isn't Wrestling an original sport? How can they do this?

Wiki says the final event in the ancient pentathalon used to be wrestling as well.

It's crazy man. It's practised everywhere, has zero barrier to entry, has a huge talent base spread out across the globe, AND is ancient and storied.

This is plain disrespectful to tradition, and a clearly shows the IOC's priorities. Fuck these people.
2/12/13 10:19 PM
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wasn't one of the guys that made the decision personally involved with the pentathlon doings?
2/12/13 10:23 PM
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This is breaking my heart so much more than any woman ever has. It's as if a very close, loved friend had passed away. I'm just...baffled.

2/12/13 10:24 PM
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hellride - Isn't Wrestling an original sport? How can they do this?

Wiki says the final event in the ancient pentathalon used to be wrestling as well.

It's crazy man. It's practised everywhere, has zero barrier to entry, has a huge talent base spread out across the globe, AND is ancient and storied.

This is plain disrespectful to tradition, and a clearly shows the IOC's priorities. Fuck these people.

^ this also.

2/12/13 11:07 PM
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Wherever IOC goes for meetings and such, dog them with loud demos, raucous wrestling exhibitions and such. Make their f--king lives miserable.
2/12/13 11:12 PM
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2/12/13 11:15 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit. Phone Post

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit. Phone Post

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.


?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit. Phone Post

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.


?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

2/12/13 11:33 PM
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BTW In case anybody is unfamiliar with the "sport" of dressage. This is it.

2/12/13 11:39 PM
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Olympics are a farce anyway. Phone Post
2/12/13 11:50 PM
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gamer - Why did they take wrestling out?

What was their reasoning?

Basically comes down to the philosophy used in some schools: don't give out "A"s because the kids who got "D"s will feel bad.

Since wrestling is basically dominated by a handful of countries, the little countries feel left out. Jamaica can't medal in wrestling, so delete wrestling. 

All bow and hail to the deity of political correctness.

Wow, that's horseshit. Phone Post

Yeah, it's horseshit in that it has nothing to do with why wrestling was dropped from the program.

The aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage either, but that's still around.


?!?!

Horrible analogy. I mention that Jamaicans will never win a wrestling medal, and you compare it by sayiing there aren't too many Jamaicans competing in dressage? One is about chances of winning, the other is about number of competitors.

?!?!

Making your point completely invalid. Truth is that it was a massive factor in determining why it was cut.

 

Look man. You're blowing smoke out of your ass. Wrestling getting dropped has to do with politics behind the scenes in the IOC not "political correctness." If "being PC" were a concern, why would they drop a sport with no barriers to entry in favor of one like dressage where one needs to be obscenely weathly to compete on any level?

 

 

 

 

I sincerely doubt ausgepichts's explanation of the IOC having to remove sports to somehow even the score.
 
If they wanted to do that, there are other sports much more heavily dominated by single countries. Table Tennis is basically all China. Basketball, all US. Archery, almost all South Korea.. etc.
 
The bottom line is that the Olympic games are incredibly expensive to host.
 
The 2012 London Olympics had a budget of £9.3 billion (~$14.5 billion)
 
In order for the hosts to break even, they have to sell tickets.
 
They probably quite simply looked at how many people bought tickets for wrestling, and decided it was an unacceptable expense.
 
Personally, I think they should seriously consider axing canoe slalom instead. Surely an extremely expensive venue to build (white water centre), and will see zero use after the games.
 
 

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